So people want to fight about social/political issues eh? How about race then?

So I saw this post on reddit the other day, under a question "What's a universal truth that you dont think is widely enough accepted?"

One guy said this:

Without a doubt there are some aspects of 'black culture' that are detrimental (as there are in any culture) and this poster mentioned it was a 'sizable portion' instead of all, but his assumption that everything is equal, the system no longer holds back blacks or other minorities back in any way and it is now their own fault for any failures is nothing but ignorance and a perspective of white privilege at best, and possibily outright racism at worst. I don't know which it is in this posters case so I'll just assume he simply doesn't know any better, after all media, particularly on the right, misrepresents or outright lies about the facts all the time surrounding this issue. Another poster, steviemcfly, responded with this, with tons of facts about how these things still go on today and links with sources to back up his claims:

The obvious truth is that institutional racism still permeates almost every part of American society. By denying that, not only are the direct targets of this being hurt, but by extension it holds the entire society back and makes further progress difficult if not impossible. Just think where we could be as a country if we weren't still fighting these old battles and instead moved beyond them together.

Another interesting discussion of northern verses southern race relations: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/rqcxc/as_a_black_southerner_why_do_northerners_think/

What about religion? Where is my money? People in my religion have been forced off their lands and never had restitution given to them.

It isn't ok to be racist but it is more than ok to throw condoms at catholic school girls.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289712/ows-throws-condoms-schoolgirls-charles-c-w-cooke

This should be fun. A bunch of whiteys arguing about the black experience as if we have a clue!

Sure, however there are plenty of useful numbers to go by that point to the reality fairly well.

You really think that African-Americans are the only people in history that have been oppressed?

See? We are having fun already!

Of course not! It would be equally fun for us Gentiles to discuss the Jewish Experience, or for us infidels to discuss the Islamic experience...

I phrased myself the way I did, because that was the topic of this thread! If you want to expand this off-topic into a broader discussion, I'll phrase myself in a broader manner!

Till then, it doesn't matter how crowded or sparse the field of oppressed groups is, when we are talking about any one oppressed group. You question is literally a non-sequitur to the topic at hand.

I'll just leave this right here...

How do we even know if we are being racist when we talk about black I mean African I mean I don't even understand how they want to be addressed.

They are allowed to call each other any name they want but if anyone else calls them that better watchout. They are allowed to fight and kill each other but if you get into a fight with them watchout.

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He's right. He IS pissed!

After seeing various tea party rally's and Obama hate based on race (the water Mellon email) racism is alive and well. But I'd have to agree that the black culture certainly does nothing to help black people (the same could be said of the jersey shore type culture except that it's not as prelalent). Then you have those that are black but did not follow the black culture and tgey are ostracized, so it's like a no win situation.

There are several prominent black figures that have said similar things, such as bill Cosby.

From an Ohio law enforcement perspective, I haven't seen this "Institutional Racism" exist for some time now. I'm retired now from the aspect of jumping out of car and arresting people but, I still have many friends that do. I find it to be just the opposite. You can become what you want if you're willing to be brave and stand up to peer pressure, family status, politics etc. Quit crying about your skin color, your religion, your sex or, who you want to marry as reasons for why YOU can't accomplish what you want in life. Just fucking put some blinders on and focus. You will succeed! This ends the motivational portion of our post.

I'm really confused by your sig and avatar. Are you for Paul or Against Paul?

Marketplace had a story touching on this issue, as well as the Welfare issue as well. "Project mentality" indeed.

Sounds like good read. Thanks!

Good luck with that one! Let me know how that turns out.

There's a military, economic, social and political tactic that works extreemly well and has for thousands, if not ten thousands of years. It goes like this: divide and conquer"
So long as there's division, the factions that aim to control any human element, have the upper hand. People are like sheep and are mearly traveling the direction the herders want them to.

A very concise summary of the racial double standard.

http://www.liveleak.com//view?i=529_1345479194

Not going to play this game so you guys have at it.

I'm all "issue'd" out.

I didn't see outward racism at the rally I went to, except for some black folks towards the protesters. But the email chains and side conversations? Overflowing... I've had to take my Mother and a few friends to task about it. "Stop emailing me all this hateful, racist crap. Focus instead on the policy and performance related stuff you disagree with. If you criticize him for the wrong (and racist) reasons it doesn't make anybody look bad but you."

But yeah, we've gone over the self destructive and self segregating black culture here in the USA many times. They have long since replaced Whitey as the villain holding them down.

It's too bad more people don't think this way, but aren't you ignoring the facts in my original post?

In many cases yes, but how does that really work in light of the facts (again, with sources linked) in my original post? Specifically the part in bold, if you please. Every one of these examples is the (white dominated) system specifically holding blacks back.