Meltdown

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  1. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    This is not looking good folks.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/nuclear-plant-blast-appears-to-have-caused-meltdown-20110313-1bsmk.html

  2. James K Administrator

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    Meltdown in no way means Chernobyl but it should be pretty fun watching the media spin this into some sort of nuclear holocaust situation.
  3. Octane91 <smartass comment>

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    +1
  4. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    The real deal is that the media and goody-two-shoes factions will use this to eliminate all those permits, plans and multi-million dollar taxpayer funded studies for all the new gen power plants scheduled for construction. not to mention the coal lobby is lovin this.
  5. JZL Galactic Rim Job

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    I think we should put all those reactors in MSP's backyard. :paranoid:

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  6. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    Yeah, I wasn't implying that. Just bad news for the locals and Japan in general. If I understand correctly, the reactors in Japan are not the same design as the ones at Chernobyl in the sense that they may meltdown but don't "run away."
  7. James K Administrator

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    Oh I didn't think you were implying it. It is bad news but luckily not as bad as people are thinking. I guess that reactor was built in the early 70s and was supposed to be shut down at the end of the month. Crazy.
  8. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    Speaking of media hype....

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    OMG!
  9. James K Administrator

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    That's more like it!
  10. Flinch New Member

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    That picture cracks me up. I live a little under 200 miles away from the reactor and I'm not worried one bit. They evactuated everyone within about 15 miles of it just incase but the media is just making it a bigger deal then it really is. Now if they come tell me to evacuate then I might start worrying.
  11. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    I'm not that smart... I qouted it from a friend at another board.
  12. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I was not worried once I saw 750 rads, then I knew it was bogus. Got iodine anyone?
  13. Commissar Smersh Communist Member of the Great Proletariat

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    this would be the only time i'd actually want to be in kansas
  14. bigwill51534 Saint, Church of Ryanism

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    That equation is only for calculating radiation exposure that transfers through the air.

    The best way to think of this, is that contamination is the shit, whereas the radiation is the stink. That equation assumes that the contamination is located in a single area and is immobile. As soon as the contamination goes airborne and into the atmosphere, that is where you have to worry. It then becomes mobile, and spreads the radiation exposure exponentially.

    I really hope that the containment holds. This is a no joke situation, guys. Could easily turn south very quickly. If the containment gave away, then we will have some major spread of contamination. These reactors are pretty well designed, so we shouldn't have to worry as long as the fuel wasn't uncovered. It doesn't take long at all to cause fuel element damage in any reactor if the fuel is uncovered. The worst part is that once the fuel is damaged, there is no reversing the after effects. Once that point is hit, the focus becomes containing the release of fission products and attempts to clean up.

    They are injecting seawater mixed with Boron into the reactor vessel, which tells me that they have hit rock bottom. The seawater has horrible effects on the reactor vessel, including blockage of fuel plate coolant channels, release of hydrogen gas (from radiolytic decomposition of the water), and potential explosions in the containment area from any sort of spark. The boron is used as a poison, as it absorbs neutrons and prevents further nuclear fissions from occuring. They are trying to stabilize the plant, and are far from recovery.

    ~Will Courtier~
  15. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    The fuel rods are exposed so that part of the equation is history.
  16. Octane91 <smartass comment>

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    I got a fallout shelter in my back yard right next to the corpse of toto...
  17. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    *cleaning out the underground wine cellar with the bank vault door*
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    *gets shovel and starts digging foxhole in back yard*
  19. Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    How many reactors are near the shore in the Pacific Northwest of the US? If the Cascadia Subduction Zone breaks loose, with the accompanying monster tsunami, reactors along the stretch from Northern California to the State of Washington could face similar challenges.
  20. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    San Onofre is one near San Diego.
  21. Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    even if the media hypes it, or everything gets watered down or disproven..
    the fact is.. noone really knows because if there was a major radiation cloud coming our way, they wouldnt tell us..

    i wonder if this will cause the leftover japanese population to migrate further west or north away from this earthquake zone..
    its going to put a dent in their population number and procreation.. not to mention their way of life.
  22. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    And it begins, not even 4 days later: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42069545/ns/business-oil_and_energy/
  23. Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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  24. Flinch New Member

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    So I go to work today and maybe an hour after I have been outside working on something I have someone come tell me hey man get inside and close the windows we are on lockdown. I guess the winds shifted right and it blow some of the radiation dust over where I live but it was a very minimum amount. They are just having us stay inside as a precaution so its really not a big deal but kinda scary at first thought.
  25. Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    thats scary!! so scooby is flinch now?

    what if you accidentally inhaled a little?
    sounds like its about to be another chernobyl despite everyones positive claims