Let's not just legalize marijuana...why not ecstasy too!

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  1. MaesterB King of the Wicker People

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/06/14/bc-ecstasy-adults-safe-health.html


    Seriously??? People...give your heads a shake!!!
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  2. El_Presidente_Pufferfish I grew up here

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  3. nidex Hood Rich

    He's right though. You don't die from MDMA. You die from the cut, you die from dehydration, etc.
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  4. MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Legalizing is a slippery slope.
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  5. MaesterB King of the Wicker People

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    I guess it doesn't really affect me. I don't do drugs. Alcohol is enough of a vice for me.

    Putting it in mainstream reach, though, puts it on a socially acceptable level that retards that pave our streets, drive our buses, cook our food, etc. have a hard enough time dealing with their jobs and life in general, now they can get a pill that's going to put them on another plain of existence, and bring them down that much harder...

    I guess if it helps accelerate the culling of the herd, why the hell not.
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    What makes you guys think that, hypothetically, as soon as ecstasy is legalized, everyone is going out to buy some and roll all day and night instead of going to work?

    It's the ultra-conservative, "nanny state" laws that put things like marijuana and ecstasy on a crazy pedestal that make them socially taboo. This kind of scrutiny makes these relatively safe substances lead to potentially dangerous situations. People who don't already use ecstasy aren't going to suddenly decide they want to roll. That's not how the mind works. Skoal comes out with new flavors of dipping tobacco all the time. How many of you are rushing to try them out? Exactly.

    It's been proven that liberal drug and alcohol laws in Europe lead to less abuse. Personal liberty FTW.
  7. nidex Hood Rich

    The government, however this would work, would have to put some type of education out there on the subject because people do die in incidents related to ecstasy use. Such as what I listed above, water intoxication, and so forth. I doubt they would ever do that, and I doubt it would ever be legal because while it isn't lethal in itself, it puts the uneducated user in a potentially lethal situation.

    Also, for it to be legal, the drug would have to be put in another category aside from Category 1 (unless there was a total drug law reform), in which there are medical uses for the drug (everything except Cat1). For those who don't know, MDMA (methylenedioxymethamphetamine) was used as an antidepressant up until 1985. I don't remember the reason they stopped using it for that, I would think because they were unaware of the long term effects of it. Rumors of its effects like "it puts holes in your brain" didn't help that, either.

    I do agree with the Libertarian approach to drugs and pretty much everything else, though.
  8. Commissar Smersh Big Brother

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    I thought MDMA caused brain damage through pockets of dying tissue or was that debunked?
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    As said, legalization is a "slippery slope". On one hand, there's no way in hell to win a "war on drugs", on the other, it would probably be really detrimental to society for any level of government to
    OKEE-DOKE the use of most classified drugs in any way.
    Although i advocate to total legalization of pot, I have to wonder what it's widespread open use will do to the way our USA society/capitalism works. In essence: would people start to believe that there's a different/better way to live rather than spend their whole life chasing a carrot on a stick?
    With other hgarder drugs, the effects of addiction and what people will do to maintain addictions,
    makes their non-legalizations a no-brainer.
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    See: cigarettes
  11. Lord Kain Keeper of the Timeline

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    The problem isn't PURE MDMA. You get the nastiest side effects because ecstasy pills are most of the time a mix of MDMA and other substances such as speed, coke, heroin and meth. I'm not even starting about fillers.

    But anyways, it's not because it could be used against PTSD that's it's a great idea to legalize it. It's still have major psychotropic effects and I don't see a highway full of drivers on X.
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    That is a perfect example. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's too squirmy to put it back inside again.
  13. Commissar Smersh Big Brother

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    So how common is a cyp2d6 deficiency? Would one notice if they had it through pain medication being ineffective or something similar? Because when I read this : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874389/ and heard/realized that I could possibly OD first dose from not breaking it down, X immediately shot to the top of my list of "Nopes".