liable to get a whole lot worse IMHO. Has America become numb to tragedy? - Crime & courts- msnbc.com With the added stresses of this corporate made mess of an economic shame, I'm really quite surprised it isn't alot worse. This anger, rage and insanity would better utilized to declare a public all out war on congress. They (congress) are out of control and have been for 30 years that I've seen.
Wiskas is right though. We've become a nation that is both desensitized to horrific spree and mass shootings as well as one that can no longer direct it's anger and passion in a progressive way.
Is that why everyone goes crazy for a long time after things like the VT killings, school shootings and 9/11? I think everyone is pretty aware of the violence capable of others but it's pretty senseless to be up at arms about it all the time. If you aren't a little desensitized to cruelty then you're a bit naive. (not you, personally) Using something like the Civic building shooting in NY is a bit silly considering he was an immigrant who was upset because he lost his job and couldn't speak English. People who go out and start shooting random strangers aren't exactly on the same wavelength as the rest of society. I'm certainly not going to direct my anger out the end of a pistol into someones brain.
Indeed. The reason these come in swarms is the simple fact that these folks see/hear the news, and if this is latent in them, it spills over into action. You can be sure that this sort of stuff happened in the '30s as well, but just didn't get reported Nationally, so waves of copycat incidents didn't happen. Also, back then there was more of a sense of community, with most of America not crowded into vast urban sprawls like they are now.
There are a lot of unstable people out there just waiting to be pushed over the edge. It's pretty scary really, but I really don't know how you could ever protect against some of these events.
Hey, even if your bat shit fucking crazy, it is your right as an American citizen to carry an automatic firearm. Why all the hating?
I am not aware of any state that allows FA to be carried as a CCW, many states have laws against carrying long guns in public as well. I think there have been 2 killings with legal FA weapons since 1934, I know one was a cop that flipped out.
i can only expect things to get worse and more of this happening every week. its almost like back in high school. when one fight broke out, another broke out down the hall minutes later, then another, THEN ANOTHER, before you know it the whole school was in a huge brawl match.
I'm guessing that CCW means conceal and carry? Ohio allows it. I think MSP has his license and I may get one.
CCW is carrying a concealed weapon and the only two states that do not allow it are Illinois and Wisconsin (D.C. disallows as well). Though there's several cities that prohibit conceal carry like NYC, San Fran, and Denver in opposition to the state's laws. I'm taking my class the weekend of the 24-26th so I can get mine when I pick up my handgun.
Maybe I'm wrong but the law that was repealed was the ability to just OWN a firearm. It was found unconstitutional. CCW is a whole other story.
I think just the ban on handguns got struck down. Pretty sure they're like NYC where technically they can issue a CCW to people but they don't. In regards to the OP, here's an interesting article on someone who was almost a mass shooter back in the late 60's: Confessions of a Man Who Almost Went Postal - The Daily Beast Edit: What Tac said too, I think there was something to do with storage of rifles as well.
I wonder if this is an aftereffect of everyone going on a gun-buying frenzy after the Obama-banns-guns scare? Then again, most of those frenzied gun-buyers are probably Mexican Drug Cartel gun-runners!
The stress that's been added as of late is bound to be the 'push over the edge" that fiddy spoke of. These incidence happen more frequently around the holidaze buying season from stress related to this materialistic society and the additional alcohol consumption of the holidaze. Extreme economic times has increased alcohol consumption and it's bound to have an effect on violence in the home. When you add alcohol to financial distress with the deciding factors of marital/family problems, loosing jobs and homes, hopelessness, people are going to go down and some will take as many as posible down with them. Police: Dad killed kids because wife was leaving - Crime & courts- msnbc.com It's been called "sensationalism". OK, it seems pretty "sensational" to me, just on it's own merits......sometimes tradgedy is outlandish all by itself without "fox news". Things such as these events did not happen as much in the past without making world news. Things such as this didn't even happen as near in the past as the 60's without the notariety bestowed on the likes of manson.
Stress is a huge part of why i'm simplifying our lives (the wife's and mine) by getting down to a more basic way to live. our home is going to be absolutely no larger than it simply has to be to house my wife, myself and our cats. Living in excess has become the norm in America and i'm going to vacte that form of glutony and in doing so, live more simply and more self reliantly. I've come to learn one thing out of 51 years of doing the trudge: there's always going to be people who are very happy to leech thier fortunes off of you. That and there are always going to be "things" that require ownership that end up owning you. It's past my time to get back to the land and peace and quite in my mind. The world of credit and banking is a bygone episode. if anyone is going to make thier money off of the energy and time granted me, it's going to be your's truely and not some person that wipes thier ass with hundred dollar bills that they made off of my bodily pains and sweat. Else I snap again and have to go live as a hermit in the Cascades and..................wait a cottonpickin' minute.! i'd love to go back to the mountains. I would in a heartbeat, but I have this awesome redhead named misuzwiskas to take into acount. My place is nearly done, just in time to get the garden that'll feed us fresh vegies all summer and into the fall and winter. :thumsup: :unibrow:. the artic chokes are coming up strong, the peaches are blooming as are the apples and plums. I have two acres to plant something large. I was thinking maybe corn or sunflowers that can form a basis for bio-fuels. Or perhaps some spuds.........I love the potatoes!
Not sure if you were serious or not but I agree with that statement. One parent households, over medicating the kids, nasty shit on TV because it's THE babysitter now, and countless lefty "Don't punish the children in school or give them a failing grade" nonsense. You would have a lot less bullshit like this.
I really hate some of teh shit they did with my generation growing up. Everybody wins? Are you fucking serious? That is not how the real world works
I totally agree. There has to be a reason that the idiot-ology has really rooted deep in this society. Common sense went away with corporal punishment. An unintended consequence of 'half-life' proportions. Teachers are failing miserably by trying to expend way too fricking much time attempting to "shape young minds" rather than teach young minds what they were hired by the public to teach. Delinquency is rampant. kids look at you like 'WTf you going to do about it" as they key your car while you watch not knowing whether to kill the kid or call your insurance company or a combination of both options.
I think this part is directly attributable to the death of small communities in the US. In areas where one can go three blocks to be totally anonymous, large school environments with weak parent-teacher interaction just about guarantee that kids don't see authority that must-be-obeyed in schools. Of course the current state of education is directly attributable to stupid professors teaching their personal opinions as if they were facts, starting scientifically unproven fads in education. Heinlein noted these trends way back in the '60s and '70s... I myself remember being victimized with the "new math" approach to teaching math, which was one of the opening salvos in war to degrade education in the US.
