Don't know if you guys remember me, i was the loyal pci gamer, with a p3 600mhz, 512mb, 90watts Anyways, now i am a dell optiplex 210L, Intel celeron at 3.06ghz 1.5gb dddr2 memory, still using pci cards tho. I just bought a while back a bfg 8400gs 512mb pci for 100 dollars Anyways, my system is running amazing, however i having a issue. Only happens with 2 of my games thus far, Jericho and El Matador Now, first, i have to set my dvd writer in pio mode, because in ultra dma mode 4 or 2, or UDMA in general, when installing either game half way when installing, i get a crc error or corrupt file, etc. So by changing to pio mode, i can get around that issue with installing just fine. Now here is the problem, when running both games, right before the game, at the loading screens, it crashes back to the desktop, error reads something like this game has encounted an error and needs to close. Note: Internal HD which is SATA is running in Ultra DMA Mode 5 Someone said its my ram, but i 2 nights ago i bought some new ddr2 ram, 1GB. Someone said its the network, but my network is running fine. I don't know what the problem is, but its only been 2 games thus far, i guess i will look forward to playing them when i buy my secondary computer later this year, a Quad Core. Any ideas?
I bought a 9800GT for $125, it now goes for $115. I could help, but you didn't listen last time. It's okay logical thinking evades some of us.
You need to give us some type of crash information for us to even begin to help. A random CTD (Crash To Desktop) doesn't tell us anything because it could be anything. Could be a bad CPU, RAM, Network, Audio, Video, corrupt files, harddrive corruption, and many other factors. Get us a crash description and we can help more. That is, if you're actually willing to listen to us this time...
? Great card i guess I just gave you some detail information , unless you want to see the crash info, i mean i can take a snap and show you.
Crash info is what we need. That way we have something to work with. The crash information may give us a clue as to what direction we need to look to solve it. *edit* without the information it would be like calling Microsoft to tell them that Windows keeps crashing, and not giving them the crash information. There are MILLIONS of things that can cause windows to crash, and you expect them to fix it without details?
Since your CD/DVD drive only works in PIO mode, does this mean you have more than one device on that cable? Otherwise, there is definitely a problem between your computer and that drive, I think. Anyhow, right after the next crash, check in Event Viewer, and click on "Application" in the left column, then double-click the topmost red X application error: then click on the "copy" button, which will copy the error details to the clipboard, which you can then paste into your next post here. like this:
Alright i just did a fresh install of windows 2000( had to rid of XP, until i get home edition again ) anyways, My DVD Writer was set in PIO Mode, which causes no problems. My Internal HD is set to Ultra DMA mode( not 1, 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 ). This fix the CRC issues Now here is the issue: Jericho seems to only play in Pio Mode but there is alot of sound stuttering. But in Ultra DMA mode it goes back to the desktop right at the loading screen without errors, i check the event log. So why does jericho not want to work in Ultra DMA mode, is my computer at 3.06ghz too fast for the game or something?
PIO mode makes things stutter because it's slow. End of story. Until you fix the problem that limits your DVD to only using PIO mode, you will have the stuttering problem. There is some conflict that is causing your problems. Most commonly, you have another drive attached to the same cable, if it's a PATA device, instead of a newer SATA drive. Next on the list is updated chipset drivers and BIOS. BIOS updates are rather iffy and sometimes dangerous, but it can't hurt to have the latest chipset drivers for your motherboard. The firmware update mentioned above, is also a good idea. Aside from that, another problem could be conflicts between devices on your computer, trying to use the same IRQ or memory buffer space. You can check on this by going into device manager and viewing resources by type or connection.
No no, people. Yes my DVD writer is in PIO mode, but thats cool because i can install games just fine, so my dvd drive is not the issue. The issue is this, My Internal HD is in Ultra DMA Mode, this is fine and it works out just fine. The problem is , Jericho and another game does not work in Ultra DMA mode, but works in PiO mode. This wouldn't be a problem if there wasn'tany sound stuttering in PIO mode. So my question, why does JERICHO and that other game( forgot already lol ) crash at the loading screen screen or before the loading screen in Ultra DMA mode, but works in PIO mode? Its only these 2 games which give me trouble lol, and there is no crash report, jericho just goes right back to the desktop.
I'm quite puzzled. A Celery as a main, and a quad core as a secondary rig..... Man if you don't troll, you're quite strange.
Its not a celery , its called a Dell Optiplex 210L Intel Celeron at 3.06ghz. Second i always wanted to have 2 computers, one for old and new gaming and one for new / newer gaming. Ever since i bought this new computer, i am getting rid of my Pentium III. With my Celeron i am using windows 2000, so i can play older games and new games. Now later this year, once i moved into my new bigger place, i am going to buy a Gateway Quad Core , this one: Gateway Official Site: Shop - Desktops - DX4710-07 Product Details - DX 4710 07 Product Details It will use for newer games only and so on. The reason why i label it my secondary computer, is because even tho i enjoy the newer games, i play the older ones more, thus being my celeron as my main computer for gaming. I am not a troll, i just have a difference of opinion
I am assuming that the Gateway computer you posted the link for, will be for new/newer games. That pc has integrated video... No new game with good GFX will run on integrated video. Not to mention for that price 609.99. You can build a quadcore system. That you can upgrade (within reason) with time. Also be able to fully access the Bios, and change what ever you need to get better performance out of the parts. That way you can least upgrade parts so you can play higher end games...
Yes. LOL i don't play games using Intergrated graphics. Thats why they make video cards dude. I don't build computers, i only deal with prebuilt and i have been doing just fine in gaming, etc with prebuilt computers. My p3 is prebuilt, serve me well since 2000, this celeron is prebuilt, runs games just fine, actually perfect. So anyways, i guess nobody knows the answer to my question, so i will look into myself lol peace
Wow really. Now you tell me... I never knew that... (sarcasm) So basically, what you saying is that; The gateway computer in the link, support dedicated GFX? as well as it has Intergrated video...
What do you mean by dedicatedGFX? When i buy a new rig, i buy a new video card to go along with it. I don't understand what you are getting at here?
Celery is an old nickname for the Intel Celeron processor. The Celeron is basically a cut down version of Intel's more powerful cpus. For example the Celeron D, which you have is a cut down version of the Pentium D CPU. Celrons are a lot better than they used to be in the Pentium 3 days but they still suck compared to the real chip. They have a lower FSB and less cache. So they are more suited for office work. Anyways about your problem i reccomend you try swapping cables first. If that doesnt work, Try another Optical Drive (CD/DVD drive).
Maybe you guys aren't reading, but my DVD drive is not the problem. Let me say this again, My Internal HD which is set under " primary IDE channel " is set to Ultra DMA mode, this is a good thing because its not set to Ultra DMA mode 5 or 6 which is a bad thing on my end anyways. So anyways, for some odd reason some games Jericho, SOF 3, EL Matador and maybe a few others will not work in UMA mode, and when running in PIO mode they work , but stuttering sound starts. But see this the interesting thing: Last night and just a few mins ago, SOF 3 started to work in Ultra DMA mode. So it seems like something is preventing these games from loading up sometimes and i am trying to figure out what it is. But other games are working just fine, while some aren't. ??????????????????????
can you not just try and follow some of the advice and suggestions you have asked for? Edit: This thread is great!
