Explicit Sex Ed for 5 year olds?

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  1. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds - United Nations - FOXNews.com

    UNESCO/UNFPA Report calls for Explicit Sex Ed for All World's Children over Five

    Ummm... that's a parent's decision. Fuck you.
  2. Mince Never Dice, Always Mince!

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    Yeah, 5 years old is way to young. I'd rather talk to my children about this then some stranger... but when the time is right!

    And of course, the time I choose!
  3. ivanolo Junior Member

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    Sex is a natural function. Unfortunately, most parents don't address it early enough in their children's lives, or they do a poor job educating them about it. I support giving kids as much information as possible so they can make good decisions.
  4. El_Presidente_Pufferfish I grew up here

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    Why do you think it is too young? What do you think these 5 years olds are going to do with this knowledge?
  5. MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    I consider myself to be pretty liberal out such things, open and frank talks about sexuality has always been my policy with my kids. But it's my decision to make, not the fucking UN or the federal government. 5 years old is way too young, because 1) they aren't going to understand it, and 2) it's not going to relevant to them for at least another 10 years. If parents don't do their parenting job, or the people they associate with expose the kids to sexuality before then, it's not my business or responsibility. Teach and encourage better parenting, don't try to circumvent it.
  6. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    IN THE CLASSROOM.... and even then they shouldn't tread in this area. If little Billy is pulling his pud on the mat during story time, stop him and call the parent. The teacher shouldn't start explaing issues such as anal sex, oral sex, homosexuality and such topics. That's not their job or decision to make at that age.
  7. CroweBaby Guest

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    I have mixed feelings about this. My mom read me the book "Where Did I Come From?" when I was five because I asked her where babies came from. I was interested, but my brother who was six couldn't be serious about it. Of course it wasn't anything explicit, but it was still graphic with illustrated pictures.

    I think it depends on a child's maturity level and if they ask about it. Kids these days are having sex WAY young though. My sister was telling about some 10 year old she knew who has already had 3 partners. My cousin lost his v-card when he was 12. I think parents need to catch them at a young age, but not too young unless they ask.
  8. tex jive turkey

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    what a pimp.

    also, we're not in high school (except sparky.) its called virginity. there are no cards involved (unless its one of those halmark "sorry i gave you an std" ones)
  9. MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Yeah, when I was a kid we had the "Where Do Babies Come From" book. That sort of thing, chosen by the parents, is absolutely appropriate. This shit that the UN is proposing on the other hand is totally out of line.
  10. Mince Never Dice, Always Mince!

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    Because the maturity level is not where it needs to be to grasp the entire concept of sex. It's not just about "putting it in the hole" but one would need to explain consequences and responsibilities of sex.

    At 5 years old, kids aren't ready for that talk and it can only be confusing for them.

    Teach them young yes, but not that young. IMO.
  11. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    What ever happened to the three R's? Reading, 'riting, and 'rithmatic?
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  13. GRP oh snap

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    My seven year old knows where babies come from. *shrugs*
  14. mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I knew where babies came from and how they got to where they came from when i was four. Thanks to a nympho babysitter. I've been a horndawg ever since. I believe that this would be userping a parents responsibility on so many levels and create a precidence that ultimately would be treading on unsafe grounds with many unintended consequences.
    I do have to remember though, that this is a recommendation of the UN. There are aspects of being a 5 year old in other cultures that do not coincide with the experience of being that age in the west. There may well be a need for extreem action in other parts of the world.
  15. CroweBaby Guest

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    Agreed.

    There is a difference in knowing where they come from and the explicit details IMO.
  16. jake Vagabond

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    Did anyone even look at the report?

    1. It is sensationalized by Fox.

    2. It is tiered, at 5 they are just learning that touching themselves can be pleasureable. Something they are going to find out soon anyhow and probably be confused by. This is actually a very small part of what they would be learning. More stressed is what is wrong and right as far as abuse goes, and that different cultures and religions treat sex differently.

    3. It is voluntary.

    4. The report highlights the roles of parents to be involoved in the program the school uses. The guidelines are very rough. It also talks about the need to develop the program based on the environment.

    After reading the article and browsing the report I think that it is a great guideline for a sex ed program to be set up. Also, this is a prime example of the media manipulating people.
  17. GRP oh snap

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    The penis goes in the vagina. A lot. White stuff comes out and bam, nine months later, baby.
  18. Eavanr New Member

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    For the fucking win. I can't believe there exists anyone who could take something Fox News says at face value. If they told me the sky was blue I would want to look out my window and check. It boggles my mind how so many of you can be so easily be played.

    I don't understand why so many of you have hysterical outbursts thinking that this is going to be some global mandate. These are 'guidelines' for countries to consider when developing their own sexual education programs. If you want to take the position that it should be to the parent's decision on when and how their children receive sexual education that's fine. But most parents are too fucking stupid or self conscious to provide their kids with any sort of basic sex education. Having a comprehensive sexual health education program gives kids a chance to make well informed decisions in the future. If parents were a good source for a child to receive a well rounded education in sexual health then none of us would even be having this conversation, but that's not the case. You might think you would be able to give a decent sexual education to your own children, but in the end you are most likely kidding yourself. Your child's sexual education is not some do it yourself project like shingling your roof, it is about providing a base of knowledge to allow them to make informed decisions that might someday save their life, and I think few people here are qualified to do that. That's not not say you can't teach them something, but that you can't teach them everything.

    It is not a surprise that countries with young age and comprehensive sexual education programs have lower incidences of sexually transmitted infections, teen pregnancy, and sexual violence. It is also not a surprise that the United States with its extremely minimal or totally ineffective (abstinence campaigning) sexual education programs have some of the leading rates on STIs, teen pregnancy, and sexual violence in the industrialized world (think G8/OECD).

    When it comes down to it you have a public health program clashing with established cultural sensitivities. While some of you may have a very real and visceral reaction to such a proposal, the effects of such a program are to save lives and reduce human suffering. I imagine some of you have children who are entering, or are close to, an age of sexual intimacy. If you could provide them with the knowledge to make healthy life decisions at least, and make life saving decisions at best, why wouldn't you?
  19. CroweBaby Guest

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    That really doesn't strike me as explicit details...
  20. ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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    Faux News. Spreading bullshit and fear mongering since 1996.
  21. crowchaser not to be taken seriously

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    so this means i should be talking about contraceptives with my 2 yr old right????
  22. MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    I'm OK with sex ed at that age as long as it's appropriate, and as the parent I have the option to opt out if I choose. But yeah, Fox news sucks hard.
  23. Torx Indigenous Nudist

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  24. crowchaser not to be taken seriously

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    what???? j/k
  25. -=Lurker=- Everyday I'm Shufflin'

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    Yeah I did but that's as far as it went. :)

    I figured I'd post it and the political members that be would do the work for me. :p

    Thanks.