So I'm trying to find Adire subwoofers in Washington, and it can't be done it would seem. There are two dealers, one said they don't carry it, the other, the online store does not work, nor do they answer their phone. Damn it. So I go back to the dealer list and go to the website of EVERY shop in America to find it. Non of them have it. I emailed Adire to tell them you can't buy their stuff anywhere and I'm going to have to talke my buisness elsewhere, but they are "out of town at CES" and won't be answering emails until the 10th. I hope they spend some time trying to actually sell their damn subwoofers instead of just showing them off The lamest part is that they get their stuff to America through the Port of Seattle, and their office is near Seattle, but they won't sell direct. SO. I'm looking for a subwoofer I can actually buy. I need it soon, because I leave for NY in two weeks. It will be in a sealed custom built box and will be getting 150 watts RMS. After talking to Adire tech support, I'm thinking a 12" would be nice if what they said is right, that in the right box I can get equal sound quality out of it with more output and depth than a 10". Sims, you said Boston makes some decent subwoofers that lean towards sound quality, I can find the Boston Acoustics G212-4 for $150 plus shipping right now... Please recomend some subwoofers to me, ones that I can actually find and order soon! (looking to spend under $200)
lol craziness, I can't believe is that’s hard for you to get there subs Boston does make a nice sub, and as mentioned is focused more towards SQ then SPl. But honestly, if you go with a good brand its not going to matter, Boston, Focal, Macrom, Diamond,CDT, they all make speakers focused on SQ, but pair them up to the right amp and any of them will put out far more bass then is even enjoyable to listen to. They just won't hit the same numbers as say something from ID or RE or Adire when the doors are shut and your 10 feet away from your car watching a DB meter go up, at the same time, if your running something from ID or RE or Adire they are all still going to sound spectacular, unless your ready to go with full custom setups and sound proff your entire car as well as take apart the thing from the ground up making sure every bolt is tight, every piece of plastic is intact and secure, I doubt you’ll really tell the difference between the two. And remember that there is no point having a good sub and a cheap amp or vise versa, your system is as weak as its weakest component. Also, keep in mind that you will definitely get more output and depth with a 12’ than a 10, but have you listened to a good 10 before? I personally prefer the sound of a 10 in most cases, I find 12’s overbearing and 15’s just sound muddled to me. There is no “better” between a 10 and a 12, its whatever sound you prefer. As far as what I would recommend, your not going to go wrong with A Boston, just be weary of there cheaper lines, In my opinion they’ve lower the quality of them to much in the sake of trying to compete with brands like alpine and pioneer speakers. I would also really recommend you at least look at diamonds, I don’t have a lot of experience with them myself, but lately I’ve heard nothing but A LOT of good things about them, literally everyone I’ve spoken to recently has broughten up something good about diamond. They are usually really well priced, are more SQ the SPL, but still move a lot of volume and generally work well in limited space(not really a concern to you, but it’s a huge plus to a lot of people with sports compacts)
I never have listened to ANY good car stereo, that is the sad thing. The only person I know who even has an aftermarket system has a dual 12" sub box of cheap woofers with the cheapest 3 1/2" speakers he could find after he blew his stock ones. It sounds horrible. I really have nothing to compare to, other than hearing a few speakers in the store, which has little meaning to how they will end up sounding inside of a car... sucks. In 10" I can find the Boston Acoustics G21044 for $130. In Diamond Audio, I see the D310D4 - Diamond Audio 10 Dual 4 Ohm Voice Coil Subwoofer D310D4 for $98 or the next step up to the D6 is $200 and looks like it wants much more power than it will be getting from me... I still don't get why a 12" woofer should sound overwhelming compared to a 10". If the bass is too high, just turn it down right? Going back to home audio (again..) all the high end subwoofers are 12" or even larger, when setup correctly, they are all supposed to sound great, 10" woofers are reserved for budget subs... The Boston Acoustics G212-44 DVC seems tempting at $135.99 plus shipping...
My bro in law had the G5 with a boston amp in his EL for a while and it sounded really nice, i've never heard a G2 myself, but i'm told there great subs, anyone who has recommended the G5 to me has recommended the G2 aswell. the D310D4 is a really nice sub, I would give them both a listen if you can, see what you think, I don't think you'll be unhappy with either. the D6 is nice, now the D9's, THEY need alot of power my bro in law's friend has 2 D9's in his teg and apparently there insane. I agree aswell, the D6 wouldn't be worth it with your current amp. as far as the size, its really personal preference, but in my experience its different then home audio, granted I’m not a home audio guy(we've got a decent Boston system my bro in law piece together for us, but 2 grand or so by home audio standards is pretty timid) and I must admit, most of the nice one's i've seen have been more targeted for movie enjoyment rather then music, but the subs definitely sounded different. they didn't have the... how should I explain this... the Punch I guess, that car audio subs have, a bigger home stereo subs, at least in my experience has meant a bigger boom, nothing else. Listen to a 15’ sub if you ever get the chance in a car, its got a huge thud almost, every time it hits, its very distinguishable, the bigger the sub, the stronger this thud is, you literally hear it pounding. At lower volume’s big subs always overpower the rest of the music imo, its either overpowering the music, or you barley hear it, this gets worse the bigger sub you go. In reality its not as bad as I make it sound, there isn’t a large difference between a 10 and a 12, I just prefer a 10 myself in most cases, I even noticed this “thud” effect In my bro in law’s car with his boston 12. To be fair, he just had a temp box in there at the time though.
In the 10" subs, the Diamond D3104D would end up being about $40 less than the Boston, in 12" the Diamond is about $30 less. Interesting the Boston is only $6 more to go from 10 to 12, and in Diamond it is only a $15 difference. As far as the specs go, the Boston has higher sensitivity (90db vs 86db and 92 vs 88 for the 12"s) which may indicate better preformance with a lower powered amp.
well, after spending a lot of time with cars, computers and electrons in general I’ve learned one thing, specs are... spec's. "bench racing" as they say and the real world are 2 very different realms. When the spec sheets for 2 sub’s are that close, the only time your going to notice a performance difference is on paper, Boston being the bigger name you also pay a bit of a premium for that as well . both are good subs, and I can’t not see you being happy with either. That being said, specs do have there place, the boston is still the better of the 2, and if your going with Boston components, They subs would match up nicely, my bro in law ran the boston Pro’s with a G5 and it sounded stunning. The only way to know witch sounds best to you is to listen, but if that’s not an option, I can assure you both are going to be great subs.
Horrid website, can't find them online, havn't seen them at the 3 stores I've been to, don't see a dealer list on their site.... *sigh* I do see two on ebay though.... both are their cheapest ones.
RE makes awesome subs, they cater more towards the SPL crowd then SQ, but they still sound very nice. they are however, not the sub your after if you only plan to run 1 4 channel amp
I already ordered the amp and deck, the ones I had looked into before. (Alpine CDA 9851 and MRV-F35). I just went to the stereo shop and tried to get them to open my door and tell me what speaker size they were for free (they are either 4" or 5 1/4" and no one knows for sure because it depends on the car for some odd reason). I hope they are not 4"... Anyways, how the heck do you open up the door and find out what size they are? They told me you need to take the whole door pannel off. I'll poke around, but I've never really dealt with cars before other than changing oil and filters, so I don't have a clue what I'm dealing with, although I'm sure it is not all that complex. If I can't figure it out, I guess I'll just go to the shop and give them a few bucks to open it up and tell me... In other news I finally got my PayPal verified, so I can buy the speakers I want (they sell to verified only) from ebay... Edit: Found a good door removal guide, I'll give it a try.
Ok, so I found out my rear speakers are only 4" which is kind of lame, but rears are not really important... So I bought the Boston Pro60s for the fronts, the S45s for the rear, and ended up with the Boston G212-4 subwoofer. Turns out it will actually be getting 300 watts from the MRV-F345 amp, which is what the sub limit is so power won't be a problem there. The deck is the 9851 I was looking at. I ordered the deck and amp two days ago maybe, and all the speakers today, hopefully they will be here soon so I can install it soon. Now the process is almost over
:lol: how wrong you are. I would have waited on the rear's, you may find you system sounds better without them, Nice choices though, your gonan love the Pro60's How are you getting 300 watts to the sub from the amp???
Noes! I'm trying not to spend any more money on this damn car As for the rears, Boston just doesn't make very good ones, nor does anyone else it seems. Really I'll may just use them when I have friends in the back seat, I've been playing with my stock system changing between using just the fronts, fronts and rears, and different levels as well. As for the amp, here is what the specs/features on Crutchfield say (the Alpine site does not list very detailed specs :roll: So eh, something like that.
