You thought HFCS and Sugar was bad? It gets even worse!

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  1. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    So I like most people knew that too much sugar or hfcs (high fructose corn syrup) was bad for you. What I didn't know was how bad it was for you. By the way, hfcs and sugar are considered equal when it comes to the impacts of the body, they are basically the same, other than hfcs is sweeter and cheaper.

    The following series of videos aren't the most enthralling of presentations, but I found them intriguing and enlightening about the impacts of sugar on our bodies. I implore you to watch them, it may be boring for you, but at least you will learn something.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM[/youtube]

    Edit: Found a full version of the video so you don't have to watch it in parts.
    HEAVY-D, Torx, Dustin and 1 other person said thanks for this.
  2. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I have begun to replace sugar with honey for what little I sweeten. I don't buy much in the ways of preproccessed foods so HFCS hasn't been a problem.
  3. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    What I found most crazy is just the damage sugar does to your body. Not only that how our body doesn't know how to deal with it and so we dull our sense of fullness and end up eating more and more. Its just nasty.
  4. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Basically we in America suffer from too much food generally. There are just WAY more calories in our diet than evolution designed the human body to handle on a constant basis. Mostly this means we develop too much in the way of free radicals, too much fat, and our metabolism switches into low efficiency mode.
  5. XEN

    XEN E Pluribus Funk

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    That was incredibly informative, I'm going to think twice about some things next time I go grocery shopping.
  6. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Did you watch the videos?

    What you said is true, but there is more to sugar and hfcs that most people dont know. Of course they are basically the same, the real truth is that our body is not meant to process them and react similarly to ethanol/alcohol in response without the acute issues like drunkenness. But more than that, of 120 calories 90 of them go towards our liver, and then our livers convert it to fat directly (the fat that causes heart disease, no good fat) and creates compounds that wreck the body from the inside. Not only that our body doesnt get a response that we have eaten when we eat sugar/hfcs, it also suppresses insulin production and response in our bodies which makes our body push out more and make us more hungry and increase our diabetes chances. Just watch the video, he goes into a lot more depth with a lot more knowledge than I could pretend to know. As my friend said about it, he was like neo learning the truth for the first time. Whoaaaa. :)
  7. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    i refuse to eat anything with HFCS. what's sad is that they have found creative ways to change the name in the ingredients so it doesn't flat out say HFCS but it could still be in there. Like sometimes, "natural ingredients" can even mean HFCS. natural ingredients sounds like a great thing but it not always is...

    I try to stay away from sugar as well. It's tough though as it's in everything. i refuse to eat things like splenda though as that's even worse of a poison.
  8. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Yeah, the sad thing is that the majority of low-fat and diet foods have tons of hfcs and/or sugar in them to combat the blandness. So you think you are eating well, when you are probably eating worse.
  9. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Prcessed foods in any form are unhealthy, just read the ingredient lables on them. My wife has a severely high BP, so I have to watch what foods go into the shopping cart. You'd be surprised how much added salt there is in everything also. Seems that sugars and salts or dirivitives of them are becoming the main ingredients along with a bit of added vitamins.
  10. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    They add those to combat the blandness from taking out the fat they used before! :)

    The levels of sodium in some processed foods is downright insane! Over a thousand milligrams per serving!

    It seems our tongues have been trained to crave the flavor of salt. It takes a while, but soon you actually enjoy food without the salt you used to add. I can't eat green beans that way anymore. Just the beans and some garlic, and they're fine.
  11. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    this. it can be tough but you can train your body back to how it is supposed to be. it's funny how my friends/family act when I don't put salt or sugar on things that they think is just "normal" to put it on. it's not needed. does it taste "better" with it? perhaps. at this point though, all that crap makes me sick. but still, it's been 2 years since i've started eating better and I still have cravings for nasty foods. i rarely, if ever, succumb to those cravings though. i wonder if the cravings will ever go away...
  12. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/fashion/10caveman.html
  13. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Unless you happen to grow your own, they may have salt added befor they are frozen. If you eat canned, you may as well be dipping those green beans in ocean water. Take a look at the contents of frozen peas. Some brands use salt in every frozen veggies they produce. making lots of money from addictions is not only for drug dealers. The food industry thievesthrives on introduced or promoted addictions.
    And Chainblade? As in drug/alcohol addictions, you never stop craving your drug of choice. i've been abstinant from all drugs for 23 years. The cravings don't run my life, but they are allways there. A craving can be controlled, but a compulsion cannot. After some time, those cravings don't mean much. A person begins to see how the object of the cravings is just as poisonous as antifreeze or any other deadly poison.
    Most people don't get enough time between where they are and the last time they gave into the addiction. This is why most the loose weight, quit drinking or put down the needles and spoons end up falling back into the ravages of their addiction(s).
  14. Mince

    Mince Never Dice, Always Mince!

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    Great video. This definitely makes me think twice about drinking coke.
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    tweakmonkey Webmaster Staff Member

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    Corn syrup in baby formula? WTF
  16. hans5849

    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    I'll watch this video over the weekend.

    When ever I buy canned food I compare the cans, I try to find the kind with the lowest sodium and calories.
  17. thadood

    thadood I Am The Black Wizards

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    I had to take a nap during the biochem portion of the video, but it's definitely pretty frightening to think it's in everything and is just as bad for you as alcohol.
  18. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    The saddest thing I think is that people don't even know how bad it is for them, he talks about that myth at the beginning, the calories in = calories out you are good. When it is obviously not even close.

    I am dieting for my health, but this is having me reevaluate and adjust my diet even further.

    Watching this video made me think about sugar/hfcs in the same light as alcohol and cigarettes. I still have old habits to break, but I know if I keep at it I should be able to break them.
  19. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    We need to start em young ;)
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    krod Junior Member

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    I'm always amazed when I go out to a village in Vietnam that is only accessible by helo and I'm surrounded by dirt poor kids with perfect teeth...why...no sugar
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    djsoulriot Junior Member

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    Thank you for posting this. I had no idea.
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    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    right click download as mp4
    imma have to save this for a rainy day.

    ive gotten so much better about looking at the labels of what i eat.. mainly for protein and caloric information.. i eat a fruit cup everyday, mixed fruits, white meat, chicken turkey, and water. ive weened myself to 1 or two soft drinks a week. drinking water all the time gets really boring fast.
  23. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Yah. We drain 'em, soak 'em in water, and drain 'em again, before cooking.
  24. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    And now for some added fun concerning HFCS. Guess what kind of corn goes into it?
    That's right GMO corn. Here's a kick in the head: http://science.slashdot.org/story/1...ashdot/slashdot (Slashdot)&utm_content=My MSN
    How do we combat something like this? Simple, stop buying anything made with ingredients that are detrimental. But who's going to do that? Right?
    Like I stated before, I get to be really fortunate, by the hand of fate.
    last year:
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    this year:
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    doubled garden plot to 2000+ square feet
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  25. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    You beat me to it! :)

    It's nice to know that our GMO chemically resistant food is tested using a rigorous NINETY DAY study to assure it's long term safety...

    It looks like, at your house, certain times in the year turn into MEGA-CANNING WEEK! Do you use Kerr jars for canning, or those ceramic pot thingies?