You guys ever feel like there is something "more" ?

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  1. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Bank that frigging money, stash it in a matress and get an 8 month generous cushion before ever giving the stuff away. It used to be that a 6 month cushion would suffice, but personal experience showed me that prices and the cost of living can jump 30% overnight. As a matter of fact, save up for 12 months worth. While you're doing that and before you let anyone tell you that 'donating money" will fix you, try donating your time, your goodness and put some goodness into your karma bank. it's just too easy and (IMHO) a cop-out to simply throw money at a charity.
    take up a cause that stirs your passions. with me it's alternative energy and it has actually become a mission. it's something that no matter what, i feel good about and I begin to feel like my stewardship of the invironment I inhabit isn't a waste of oxygen. for others, there's the big brother program, political activism, helping out with two hands doing physical work for the better of a family, community or region. There are so many causes that are very worthwhile that need help and, especially, young hands and backbones.
    A hoby can be a way to pass time, but a hobby that includes the betterment of another person or place is special and when you lay your head down at night, you feel like you accomplished something unselfish. The hardest part? it's to be of service to other people in a way that you don't seek recognition and to do it without expectation of some sort of reward. when one thinks about all the people that expect a reward for doing what they should be doing in the first place, it cheapens alot of efforts seen in the community. It is not an easy thing to do: help somebody ibn a selfless way and not tell a single soul about it.....try it and see what I mean.
  2. Octane91

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    i think that what we do now is the thick of the action but life is more about what we leave behind than what we do to seek fulfillment. sure being a kind person helping others or spending lots of money may feel good but then you go to sleep and wake up the next day and feel just as shitty as before. think about it we spend our entire lives waiting, it may not feel like it but when we get up we wait to go back to bed (of course we occupy our time in between with jobs and other activities), to drag out the time frame even more we just spend our entire lives waiting to die, the earth is just one gigantic waiting room. i think life is more about making your mark on society whether it be going and helping people or being a hermit your entire life, do what matters to you/your beliefs, be positive and remember things happen for a reason, you may not understand why right now but in due time my good chap.
  3. Chainblade

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    thanks for the advice mistawiskas. I definitely don't want to throw my money at charities. that doesn't do anything for me. i want to be involved. and i'm saving up at least a year worth of living expenses before I start anything anyways.

    and again, it's not that i have a lot of free time on my hands because I don't at all. sure i'd love a hobby but trying to fit it into my schedule is another story entirely lol.
  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Time is all that is valuable. We trade it for gold, we lose it to addictions including the addiction to gold. To trade our time, or a portion of it for the benefit of others, is the ultimate selfless act. all other bartering of time is selfish in nature. Wheather to procure self sustenance or fullfill the requirements of addictions to people, places and things.
    when a person learns to trade time for selfless pursuits and begins to see the value of the undertaking, then they truely realize why we are here.
    ENIGMA SECOND CHAPTER OUT FROM THE DEEP - Video

    For this old fart, the most valuable thing I've witnessed, is the planting of the caring seed and the flourishment that occures when one good act of random kindness spreads in deeds by other people of like caring and kindness. It's more valuable than any amount of dollars and accomplishes what dollars can't.
    So many people go through60-90 years of life without ever really taking time to examine what it is that they even truely believe. It is our beliefs that creat attitudes and in turn attitudes create actions that become character. most are too b usy chasing thier tails trying to amass fortunes that may, or may not follow them to the last day. All the while feeling just as you in your opening question. sad, that's what i call a waste, that is where a true loser be.
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    It's not all black and white. You can establish a good life for your family and possibily generations more (financially speaking) AND give your time in forms of outreach or general good will. Not all wealthy people are evil. Nor are all people of humble means righteous.

    I try to do an act of selflessness everyday but I can almost say positively I do one every week. Making people happy keeps me going. The reward is that they assume the good samaritan is a thing of the Bible times and no longer exists in this sometimes corrupted world we live in. When they can find a drink of fresh water in stagnant swamp, it really catches them off guard. This is how I keep my inner spirit content despite what evils and despair I encounter everyday I depart through the threshold, into this place of infinite vulnerability we call "the world."
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    Where did I write that making money was evil? It's just like beer. For most it's just a beverage........................unless you are addicted to it. same with trading your time for gold. All things in moderation. this society created the need to trade some of your time for credit towards a financial system. The fact that there are "Madhoffs and Stanfords" proove to me that something is not in moderation and that some have no control of thier lives when it comes to bux. A great many people do "token shit" just to okeedoke themselves, then they go and spout the generousity they possess. That tells me that
    somethings up other than true caring and selflessness. Try what I suggested. do good deeds and tell not a soul what you did. Try it more than once. I know of alot of people who do acts of random kindness after they got thier weekly dose of Jaaayyzuzzzzzzzzzzzz. That may even last until tuesday. but by saturday, they be the worst kind of ass hole and waste of oxygen in the world. Real goodness isn't a once a week trip or once a month. It's whenever the opportunity arises. I, myself, fall way short of that mark. I possess no virtue that I know of. I'm not in it to win a popularity contest. we all get to be worm food or return to stardust sooner or later. The act of being helpfull when people are watching......is not going to get a person what the guy who decides to let bugs live rather than kill them, it won't achieve the same as a life of
    meekness (look it up 2 Cor. 3:13), it will however, leave a person wanting more, needing more of the exact thing that will demand they rationalize and condone behavior that they takes them away from the real acts of real random kindness. Want your needs instead of need your wants.....try it, see if you can. That's kinda how they (12 step programs) lead alcoholics to the realization that they have no control over thier addiction to alcohol. They suggest that the alcoholic quit suddenly or limit it to not more that three smallish drinks a day. Real addicts can't do it for long, if at all.
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    Without reading the replies and only the original post, here's what I offer.

    First:
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    Second, whenever you feel like something's not working or change is needed, you have to make change. Whether that's meeting new people, doing new things, etc. -- you can't do the same thing and expect the same result.

    Third, find hobbies and projects to learn new skills. I take on way more new hobbies than I ever master, but I'm almost never bored. This generally gives my otherwise idle mind happiness. :)
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    That's not what I said you said.

    You said:

    I said it's not black and white as stated above. I made an obvious related statement along the lines of that thinking stating that not all wealthy people are evil as are not all humble of means people righteous.

    That's all.
  9. mistawiskas

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    I wasn't even singling out wealthy individuals. All of us take our 'wants' to one extreem or another. Whether our bank account says 1,000,000 or -10. In the end, it doesn't matter a single bit as far as leaving this world feeling complete. Maybe one out of 100 million may feel totally at peace knowing they conquered thier humaness. In the end, our pursuits are what define our lives. Did we add to or take from our species and our planet? i'm talking species or planet, not family or home. for me, the ultimate best last realization would be to know, not just "believe", that i had a positive impact on our only planet and humankind as a whole. Somehow, the bottom line in a ledger book just isn't going to bring the kind of last thought I want to have. But you all go ahead and do it however you think it'll get you where you want to be at the end of your journey. We've all been getting closer to that day since the very momment of conception and it
    will get here for every last one of us.
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    So you want to feel special. Join the club. Neither money nor good deeds will get you that. Love from family and good friends will get you close, though I don't know for sure where the destination is to begin with so whatever..

    And yes, I'm sure all of us know that we are mortal.
  11. mistawiskas

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    At least our bodies are. Who wants to feel special? It would be an awesome thing to know that all those breaths were not a waste of oxygen and time. Someday all the questions will be answered. Enjoy it while you have it, it can all leave in a heartbeat. Then what?
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    Then your dead. No 1up's. Game over and the quarter slot is jammed.

    You have a really smug condescending attitude btw. I don't know that when I die "all the questions will be answered" but I guess you have insider info. *shrugs*
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    It seems condesending to you because what is written somehow threatens your way of looking at the world. Perhaps someday, you'll get a chance to view the world from down here with the rest of us and that feeling of threat will go away.
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    LOL ok whatever. You sure do presume alot.
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    I know what I believe and do not think my beliefs are facts. I get amusement when people get all offended and take statements, put forth in a general manner, as a personal
    put down. If anyone takes what I believe and write as a put-down or attack I appologize
    because that is not the intent. I only voice my opinions. If it threatens anyone, then that's on them. If anything seems condescending perhaps a self examination is in order for myself and the person that believes they've been spoken down to. When I feel defensive, that's red flag that i need to look at some thought process and I'm beginning to feel that way. Likewise, when I see defensiveness, then I know I've hit a nerve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensiveness :-k