WIN X I mean Windows 10

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  1. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Installing it on my gaming rig. See you on the other side!
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    I haven't yet. Good luck.
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    Windows update is being a bitch and will not download the update.
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    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Mine went through on launch day, probably because I reserved it early enough for most of it to have downloaded prior to launch. Install went without much problem, except that I needed to reboot before the printer spool would work.

    Another learning curve. WinTen still seems to suffer a bit from the "I'm a little bit Metro, I'm a little bit Win32/64" schizophrenia, but it's better than Windows 8.1

    The plus points I have right now are:
    1.) Candy Crush Saga -- Seriously, somebody stop me, before I get Sugar Crush Diabetes!
    2.) Those old Direct Draw games that ran slower than dirt on 8.1 now run smoothly on 10. I can play Sacred Gold again. All the games from old to new run as well or better than before. This may be due to the new Windows 10 drivers, or the new WDDM 2.0 driver model.

    Bad points to be fixed.
    1.) WiFi sharing Be sure to turn it off.
    2.) Start Menu is just generally badly coded. 500 item limit, doesn't update properly past this limit, and just generally badly implemented. Should be fixed eventually?
    3.) Possible problems with Nvidia's GeForce Experience and Windows Update battling each other over driver updates. This may already be fixed.
    4.) Metro/desktop multiple personality disorder is still in evidence in settings and the like. Right click the start button to find the control panel, which I could not find ANYWHERE else. Sigh.

    Also, a bad point for me (or maybe a good point!) is that Cortana isn't able to use my microphone. This may be a good thing, since everything Cortana hears will be heard by the Cloud... I got to turn off the "speech, inking, and typing", since I can't use Corti anyway. (Edit: After fiddling with my sound, I got Cortana working. I can open firefox by yelling at my computer now..)

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    We'll need a new thread on "Stupid Cortana Tricks" ;) So far, I've gotten it to sing "Happy Birthday" to me, and tell a really corny joke to me, as well as doing bing searches and opening programs for me.

    Also, the "Windows-Key + G" combo brings up the "game bar" which can be used to record any game (or application) you're running. I'm sure steam has something like that as well, but this is built into windows and is dead simple to use.

    Daemon says it well.
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    Those are handy attributes.
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    Mine has yet to show up. But that's ok since apparently it does not play nice with the G3258.
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    I'm not in any real hurry myself. I want to see what the hook is. There's always a hook when something is "free".
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    Cortana collects all your info, for one. All search is through Bing (marketing) Things like Wi-Fi Sense means MS is worming it's way into your wireless network, in a really REALLY invasive way. Solitaire and Minesweeper have ads.

    That's all I know so far. I could care less, since we've all already sold our souls to Google and Facebook...
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    This online climate makes it seem that Fiddy has the right idea.
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    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    I stopped using the pictures folder back in win7. I hate the libraries BS and the way it indexes without
    any simple way for the user to take control.
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    Duh.. Porn always goes in some random named system folder within the Windows directory named A followed by random alpanumeric with -h attribute. Shortcut to said folder goes in temp folder with attribute -r. Shortcut to "temp" folder goes on desktop. Click the inconspicuous "temp" shortcut bringing you to the temp folder. You know the name of the folder since it starts with "A" it will be the first folder.
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    How do you know Cortana is watching you? While I was playing CS:S, after I died, I asked Corti to sing me a song, and she sang "Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are callin'"...
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    Hey, with WinTen, and much head-banging, I FINALLY got Sacred 2 to play on my machine! Talk about a bad case of Consolitis!

    So far, from what I've heard, WinTen is one of two things for folks. If it's good, it's very good, but if it's not, then it is usually show-stoppingly bad. Most of this is just problems with drivers and old registry dross, it seems like. Especially that recent case where the auto update landed folks in eternal reboot hell, because of old invalid User SID entries...
  16. Commissar Smersh

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    So Win X will not install on systems running a G3258, especially when overclocked. It goes to install and then bootloops right back into 7 on my system, this is apparently widespread.

    The solution is to reduce the clock speed and then disable one of the cores. Which is absolutely insane. Tangentially related, I've been debating upgrading to the new i5.
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    The G3258 problem is evidently limited to older chipsets like the H81. Folks with the newer chipsets like the H97 or Z97 don't experience this issue, from what I've read.

    Information regarding these updates really sux on WinTen though. On the third "cumulative update" in as many days, and I still don't have any clue what ANY of the updates actually updated! Like with the "Something Happened" error screen, Microsoft seems to have totally given up on explaining what the haywire they're doing, anymore.
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    Installed it on my Laptop. Not sure about Edge. Chrome still seems snappier.
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    Link? I have a B85 gigabyte mobo.

    Also, I really want to use this as an excuse to upgrade. Anyone have any recommendations on a micro atx or mini it with dual pcie 16? Also an i5 or equivalent?
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    I just looked up my computer's info and apparently my mobo chipset and CPU were released in 2008. 7 years is a pretty good lifespan for a computer I'll say. Especially since I'm running Windows 10 flawlessly.
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    Reddit discussion here.

    With a B85 chipset, unless your motherboard manufacturer has a "Microcode 19" update for you, you are most likely up that proverbial waterway of effluvium without a manually operated unattached watercraft propulsion device.

    I'd use this as an excuse to upgrade to a new Broadwell CPU with that onboard e-Dram L4 cache...
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    Just ordered a 4690K :-X
  23. Goofus Maximus

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    UPDATE! IMPORTANT FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH DATA CAPS! TYPING PUN INTENDED!! :)

    Anyhoo. WinTen has a new update paradigm, which basically turns all clients into a vast bit-torrent-ish network. My nephew just got bit by overages that were caused by WinTen uploading updates to other computers. You can turn this off, or modify it, as described in this article.

    Since I turned it off, my ping in CS:S, which was averaging 50ish at the server I frequent, fell to 30ish, which was my usual before WinTen. It is important to know that your computer is helping MS push updates to other computers, as part of a giant bot network! :0

    If I were a hacker, I'd find this feature very intriguing. What a way to push your own bot network, using Windows Update as a vehicle...
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    Thanks! I shared it on my FB feed too.
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    Got rid of it today. Didn't work with my GM TIS (ECU programming tool software for GM). The revert was easy. You only have 30 days of installing Win 10 to revert though (unless you've saved the backup image elsewhere and have a way to get the installer to reference the location I guess (~hack).

    Anyway, I like 7. Sticking with that.