Want to go to college...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Chris, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. Chris

    Chris Raptor Jesus

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    So, let's be real (and not emo): My life sucks. It's at a dead end, and I'm tired of feeling like I've done nothing to improve myself. I try not to complain because any complaints I have about my life are of my doing. I've been dating this girl for almost 6 months now, and she's going for her Masters. I'd like to stress that YES I am doing this for ME, but seeing someone else do it for themselves just motivates me more.

    Obviously, being on T3D I have a knack for computers and things. I'm more of a field tech in my day to day job, with not a drop of programming or software engineer work.

    That said, a friend is telling me a college degree is "completely worthless" for field techs, or any job in that spectrum. Is this true? Would a college degree in IS/IT drown me in debt for a worthless degree?

    Would love the opinions of those in the know, in the job field, and/or currently in college doing this.

    Thanks ;D
  2. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    chances are good that, yes, it will be worthless. But I am getting a degree because I don't want to encounter that 5% chance where I need it and not have it. A lot of it is company culture. My company has 2 degreed people - one of the owners has a CS degree, and the new guy has a pysch degree. We could give a shit if you have a degree, and our clients don't care that most of us don't (I do IT consulting, 75% small biz, the rest "real consulting" to big 1000s of employee companies). However, I have also worked for Dell, the state lotteries and a few other huge companies, and most of them do care. At the lottery, having a college degree means you start as a shift manager rather than a lackey (After a certain amount of training of course.) Is any of the stuff you learn in the classes going to help you? Doubtful unless you go EE/CS (which happens to be the 2 degrees MS requires if you want to go into a lot of the premier support positions).

    Aren't you in Austin now? Texas State has a campus in round rock that has a few programs, and it isn't too expensive (~$1k total cost a class I believe). They also offer a ton of night classes which is good for professionals. You complete your undergrad at ACC (~$200/class) and then do your last 2 years there. I am about to start at Tx State in teh fall I think (finally done at ACC after 4 years.) I would get something, even if its just an associates degree from ACC.

    And the drowning in debt stuff is because people go to stupid expensive out of state schools like NYU. oh, whoops, sorry =p
    You could probably finish a degree at Tx State for less than 40k. Much less than that if you do community college for the first 2 years.
  3. Chris

    Chris Raptor Jesus

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    Nah, I'm in NJ again. Austin didn't jive well with me at all. Part of the reason I havent posted in so long.
  4. hans5849

    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    Military worked for me. I have an AA and I'm an electronics technician. Granted being an ET isn't shit in the real world, but it's a good base.
  5. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    For the love of jah just don't go to something that's a for profit (ITT, etc).

    Like Tex said, the degree is for the 5% of the world that cares about it and will help get your foot in the door in a myriad of places. If you really want to go places (like upper manglement, etc) go for a masters if you can tolerate that much school. However, given your interests and field, I'd suggest minoring in business as it couldn't hurt in getting you hired and if you ever wanted to do the small business/self-employed thing it could/would help.
  6. braaains

    braaains gubble gubble

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    Shoulda learned web development in Austin, apparently there's a big demand for that right now.

    And I need to go back to school so bad :-\
  7. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    jesus christ, dont do web development. That is some seriously out-sourcable shit, and it generally doesnt pay well (unless you're the artistic+programming type)

    and you don't need to go anywhere nice. As long as it isn't univ of phoenix, any school will do. Texas state is pretty shitty, as long as you can put your pants on the right way and not rape/kill anyone during high school, you will probably get in. That degree will be good enough at 90% of places
  8. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    My advice would be to pick a career direction and take whatever schooling it takes for you to achieve your goal. Lots of educated motherfuckers are working at Starbucks paying off their student loans. Just having the piece of paper doesn't mean much anymore.
  9. mattdev

    mattdev liberal crybaby

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    This. So many people go for one of those esoteric generalized degrees. While it may make you sound worldly in a conversation, it won't land you a job.

    I picked something specialized (Marketing, specifically Marketing to low income populations). While I had some opportunities for non-marketing related job, I ended up getting a really bad ass job after I stuck to my guns for a good 4 months after graduating. Those 4 months of job searching were pretty miserable, but now it's all worth it.

    e: Also, if you're doing something tech related, don't go with computer science. Go with computer engineering or something because it's WAY more of an employable degree.
  10. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    dude, how many people do you know that are using their degree? My dad has a phsych & eng degree. Doesn't do anything remotely related (and has devolved into one of the worst spellers/writers ever.) My fiance has a history degree - works at a law firm. New guy at work - psych degree. For certain fields like engineering, obviously you need a specific degree. But for most general white collar office jobs, pretty much any piece of paper will do
  11. jake

    jake Vagabond

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    Check trades out. The payback is much faster than any degree you get. If you look into some trade schools and decide non of it is for you then think about the university degree route.
  12. ThatHideousStrength

    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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    I have a degree in Operations and Information Management. I am a Network Administrator now. A little bit of school helped, especially in programming and Business Writing helped too. I'd say college helped me get where I'm at.