Vinyl albums - rip off, or am I missing something?

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  1. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    So I'm bored, looking for a new obsession. Been wanting to dabble in vinyl, haven't really had any since the 70s. Anybody else head down this road?

    Thus far I'm finding madness all around. $1,200 for "entry level" players, a recently released mono box set of Beatles for $2500! Even Police albums I've been looking at are running $30-80. Honestly, if this is the norm?!?

    Anyway, here's the table I was looking at. Seems reasonable and decent. Wish I could say the same for the albums...

    http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technic...TF8&colid=18U0CG8WZ5DQR&coliid=I3ONVFH1IZTY2J

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  2. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Try not to look where you are for vinyl. Craigslist has a few collections available from private people from time to time. Resale record shops get them for nothing and you can now testify to what they mark them up to.
  3. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    I think I've already talked myself out of vinyl entirely, check out this NPR discussion on the topic. Sound engineers, experts, people calling in... Pretty much everybody agreeing that CD sounds better. Apparently early CDs were poorly mastered, sounded lousy, and the audiophiles never got over it. And from there word of mouth and snobbery kept the bias going, and now the record companies love the vinyl revival so they can gouge us for music again.

    http://www.npr.org/2012/02/10/146697658/why-vinyl-sounds-better-than-cd-or-not
    Sparky says thanks for this.
  4. Goofus Maximus

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    I wonder if phonograph tech has improved? It seems that lasers and sensors in the typical optical mouse would be an excellent alternative to the old-fashioned phonograph needle...
  5. Octane91

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    Find a good used record store in your area, I went to a local one and found a pristine Dark Side of the Moon, and Huey Lewis and the News for 12 bucks for the two. I like listening to vinyl just for the nostalgia factor, I don't think it "sounds better"...
  6. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    Jack White swears by vinyl, but he's Jack White. I thought the whole idea of the move from vinyl to digital was to trade a usually unnoticeable amount of signal loss (due to sampling) for freedom from hissing, pops, and scratches. In other words, they traded a needle that damaged the medium for a laser that didn't. It doesn't seem worth all that money for the amount of increase in quality (which may be only temporary), but maybe your ears are as sensitive as Jack White's.

    AFAIK reel-to-reel is the best. Finding tapes must be nearly impossible, though.

    Off to read that NPR article . . .
  7. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Oh the memories of TEAC!
  8. Sparky

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    Definitely scope out thrift stores and Goodwill for record players; you can find one under $20 usually. Records at Goodwill are $2. My favorites are the ones that look like 70s furniture, but that's probably just me. ;)

    I've been getting into it lately too, just bought Chicago's first album from Savers. My mom has a fantastic collection as it is, so I've been making a habit of smoking a joint, picking out a random album, and enjoying at least the A-side of it. The sound quality of vinyl is fantastic!

    I think it's great because it can make listening to music an event.
  9. JZL

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    Sparky, what about dust and scratches? Snap, crackle, pop?

    And WTF about these?
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    1972 WELTRON 8 Track Cassette Player With AM/FM Radio1970s

    (Richard Milhouse Nixon had one of these on his nightstand, RIGHT!?)
  10. mistawiskas

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    Wow, I used to have one of those. The sound quality sucked dirty canal water through a dead hog's ass.
  11. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    The Weltron specifically or 8-track generally?
  12. Goofus Maximus

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    Ah, 8-track! I remember the one we had; whenever you changed tracks with the "KATHUNK!", the lights would flicker...

    We still have a full collection of old 78s, of Spike Jones and the City Slickers. The Blue Danube isn't Blue, it's Green. :)
  13. mistawiskas

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    I've got a bunch of old Bill Cosby platters. I won't be parting whith them though, they're a hoot. "Rhubah-Rhubah-Rhubah-Rhubah.....DING!.............Noah!....................What!?" LMFAO
  14. JZL

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    I had a chance to download a bunch of old Cosby albums and have Himself DVR'ed. His stuff stands up. In Jerry Seinfeld's documentary The Comedian, from ~ 2000, Seinfeld and Chris Rock talk about Cosby still doing one and a half hour sets (maybe longer).
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    Vinyl? I still use my AKAI reel-to-reel.

    On topic, the early CD's werent shit. It's just how the recording industry had to adapt to the CD's fidelity. Some labels had shit quality and some met even today's standards.
  16. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i definately wouldnt cheap out on a ttable. wouldnt want some shit needle scratching my shit up.
    good luck, i think its a wise investment, and great for entertainment purposes.

    dont forget a nice set of headphones :)

    and dont forget the most important part, cleaning your vinyls the proper way
    http://www.howtocleanthings.com/electronics/how-to-clean-vinyl-records.htm

    theres plenty of how tos out there
    a 'record cleaning machine' would also be a nice addition to your colection