US is the "Most Armed Country in the World"

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by tweakmonkey, Aug 29, 2007.

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Do you personally own guns?

  1. Yes, several

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  2. Yes, I own one

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  3. No

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  1. sims

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    I guess we just have very differing opinions, but to me that seems crazy. I’d Rather live where I don’t fell threaten to the point where I believe its necessary to have an unregistered assault rifles in my house for protection, whatever the reason being. If I felt that what I would be getting the hell out…
  2. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    As Canada's economy, standard of living and political power increases, you may be able to compare apples to apples. Power corrupts absolutely.....even in the free world. And it's not that we even feel/believe we need them. It's a good way to keep the power in check....make them honest so to speak. When the crime statistics get perverted to where they are being used to
    take away our "right to bear arms", is when we especially believe they are a good thing to have. not to mention, history. Look at how hard and swift USSR fell. If that were to happen here, a locked and loaded assault rifle
    would just be another tool in my survival kit......right next to the flint stick and flashlight.
  3. JustinL

    JustinL Junior Member

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    A much better way to compare gun violence is population density. Go out to the midwest and there is not a whole lot of gun violence, but step into a dense city, such as DC, and the gun violence skyrockets (mind you, DC has a gun ban in effect ;) )

    I read a book "Florida Firearms: Law, Use, and Ownership". It is a book written for Floridians and mainly focuses on concealed carry. It is handed out to almost everyone who gets their concealed permit as far as I know. He goes through all kinds of statistics and basically says there is NO relation to gun restriction and violence. The people with their concealed permit are far less likely to become a victim though. At my college, there have been 2-3 armed robberies in the past 6 months and I personally know two people who have been carjacked at the university. I think that alone is enough to warrant owning and carrying a weapon. The cops only showed up to DOCUMENT the crime, they didn't prevent it.


    Another statistic he put in his book....

    Over a one year period, OFFICERS in South Carolina had a higher crime rate then concealed permit holders. More officers lost their jobs due to crime then permit holders lost their liscence, and most of the permit holders lost their liscense due to a DUI (I believe this quote is right, but I will verify when I get back to my house in melbourne, Fl).
  4. MSP

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    Simply put, if you got rid of the illegal guns in the United States the gun crime would almost vanish. Then people would use knives and clubs. :)
  5. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    yea, we better be the most "armed"
    because once china invades, were gonna need all the "armory" we can get.
  6. sims

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    Well... Canada's economy isn't improving, the world economy as a whole is going down the crapper because were all so reliant on the US buying everyone's goods and services and america's in no position to be buying right now. Even then, Canada's economy has and for a long time will continue to be a resource and energy based economy which is very different from the US economy and primarly why we as canadian's currently arn't feeling the repercussions of this financial mess like you guys are. We'll likely never see as high of highs or as low of low's as the american economy can.

    I believe our standard of living in Canada is considered better then in the US, and either way both are on their way down.

    as far as political power.... common now, we're canada! we never have, nor will we ever have any kind of real political power. Power does lead to corruption, which is why I feel so safe in Canada :p

    you will never be able to compare apples to apples so to speak between Canada and the US.

    With that said, I stick by my beliefs that gun ownership for self defense isn't the best solution nor is it a statistic to be proud of. I absolutely believe that it is the causes of alot of violent situation that at the very least could have been less bad if gun ownership wasn’t considered the Norm in the US. It certainly hasn't help keep your Gov. honest :p
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    they're isn't a machine that produces illegal and legal guns. they all started as legal guns. if there are very few legal guns, criminals have less selection.


    Why would china ever invade america? it would completely destroy there economy.

    who do you think buys(a large %) of china's goods, and why do you think own's american's debt(atleast a sizable chunk of it)?
  8. mistawiskas

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    I have had three incidences where I have had to defend myself against a deadly weapo. Guess what, not a single one of those dealdly weapons were guns. I had the firearm and my life was saved in two and the life of my best friend was the other. Only one time did I actually have to shoot the person. at a kegger I was having, a group of illegal aliens crashed it and were asked to leave. They came back with a pickup load of chili chokers and started cutting up my friend with a machete'. They came at me so one got shot in the ass. Funny as hell in retrospect, watching that ass hole jump and hop off. my buddy took 125 stitches. Another time a drunk was coming at me with a 1965 catalina (tuna boat)doing 45mph, all I had to do was lob a couple of .22 longrifle rounds through his passenger windshield and he backed off at 35 mph. The last time all I had to do was chamber a 12 guage shell in my 870 Remington. Clack-Clack, the guy with the knife that was coming at me wimpered off to parts unknown. Guns are not the only weapons that can cause death. if you outlaw guns, only outlaws wil have guns.
  9. MSP

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    There's truth to that, I can't deny. I myself have bought a gun (a Chinese assault rifle no less) that was done so without any background check or official paperwork. Many guns I've obtained from family. In fact, of the guns I own only one is probably "legal".