Uhhhh....yes, it is health care reform

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by mistawiskas, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Oh yes, i could see why it bothered you right out of the git-go. the point is that i didn't set the political rules, i just played by them. That is what i'm trying to point out. At least you took the time to check it out. in this forum and most everywhere else, a subject has to be tackled from the back door angle. people tend to read what they believe reinforces their view. Out of a thousand words, twenty or so are retained by the reader to support his/hers perspective. The topic of "health care" is the smokescreen, the actual motive of this thread is to demonstrate the shadyness that the media and our beloved government employs to achieve a calculated desired response.
    Any other method would be recieved and percieved as paranoia and discounted without a reply. I do not desire anyone else to think or believe as I do. I do, however, wish people would not allow themselves to be blinded to the workings of our government and the industrial manipulations of our modern day capitalisms. I try the best I can to remind everyone to keep their eyes open. It isn't recieved well, perhaps because the "blue pill" is more palletable.
    How many people have bookmarks like these?:
    http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/committees/b_three_sections_with_teasers/committee_hearings.htm
    http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html
    What is anyone else doing to liven up these forums? ;) take a look at the topics and responses tio them. :eek:
  2. Coleman

    Coleman fresh off the corner

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    Today, the TV told me to go out and shop at wal-mart and vote to further give away my freedoms to the black man on Pennsylvania Ave.

    I did it and it was pleasing.
  3. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Actually, it's about average with private enterprise and individuals, on the FUBAR Scale. In fact, our Country was chugging along best before we abandoned the "command economy" and gave everything over to market forces. It seems so much worse than it actually is, because every little thing that doesn't go perfectly right, gets trumpeted to the "Tea Party" crowd by demagogues, and blown entirely out of proportion to actual reality.

    There was an interesting study on this phenomenon of perception of risk vs actual risk, which looked at how folks would go bonkers over very marginal problems, because they get massive media coverage (in part because they are so uncommon), while ignoring simple every day occurrences that absolutely dwarf the marginal problem, but is so common that it get's no real media coverage. Airplane fatalities compared to auto fatalities, is a good example.

    I'll see if I can dig up the link somewhere... Here we go! An old special from 20/20. "Are we scaring ourselves to death"...

    Part One

    Part Two

    Part Three (currently down, for some reason)

    As for the chain e-mail vs Congresional Bills, it's no contest! The chain e-mails were designed to be easy to read, while the Congressional Bills were designed to be indecipherable obfuscatory legalese. :)
  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Man, you sure got that right. That's part of the "baffle them with bullshit" I was mentioning. It is also part of the ploy of hidiing in plain sight.
    Oh why oh why, didn't i take the blue pill?
  5. SoulAssassin

    SoulAssassin Car Ramrod

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    Damn near everything that needs to be voted on (at least here) is the baffle them with BS idea. I remember so many people being confused on a certain topic and its language that nobody could tell how to vote. I think it was vote yes if you don't want it and no if you do want it (paraphrasing of course).
  6. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    That's the type shit i want to raise awareness of. It is really out of hand and getting worse with every ballot. Oregon is a pioneer in the "dupe to get your way" syndrome.
    The candy coated turd is another favorite of ballot/legislation writers. The deal with turning over control of the ban-by-steps tobacco sales to the FDA (an agency that has no voter accountability) by enacting the "family tobacco prevention act"
    is a prime example. what is next? oh yeah, convienience foods and alcohol. Blame recent administrations if you want, but it all started to reach unprecidented levels with the listing of the spotted owl as a means to shut down national and BLM forrest lands back in the early 80's. Am i affraid of what our government is capable of? No., I know what they are capable of and can spot the ploys used. I do however, distrust the monster with every ounce of my being. it is a self serving, glutonous beast and as long as it gets fed on a regular basis, it'll continue to grow and get stronger. This deficit mess is a sign of how strong the abomination has become. With the passage of the health care legislations before congress, the ability of the public to mount any resistance will be nearly null and void.

    It's all i can do to prevent myself from copping an attitude of: "if they want to take away my choices for my own good.....they can pay my taxes too".