Oh yes, i could see why it bothered you right out of the git-go. the point is that i didn't set the political rules, i just played by them. That is what i'm trying to point out. At least you took the time to check it out. in this forum and most everywhere else, a subject has to be tackled from the back door angle. people tend to read what they believe reinforces their view. Out of a thousand words, twenty or so are retained by the reader to support his/hers perspective. The topic of "health care" is the smokescreen, the actual motive of this thread is to demonstrate the shadyness that the media and our beloved government employs to achieve a calculated desired response. Any other method would be recieved and percieved as paranoia and discounted without a reply. I do not desire anyone else to think or believe as I do. I do, however, wish people would not allow themselves to be blinded to the workings of our government and the industrial manipulations of our modern day capitalisms. I try the best I can to remind everyone to keep their eyes open. It isn't recieved well, perhaps because the "blue pill" is more palletable. How many people have bookmarks like these?: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/committees/b_three_sections_with_teasers/committee_hearings.htm http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.html What is anyone else doing to liven up these forums? take a look at the topics and responses tio them.