The week of ugly continues!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by tweakmonkey, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. czechrboard tassia

    czechrboard tassia Likes gay people.

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    lol man, i eat my emotions at least twice every month, but i'm still less than a buck 15. the trick is to counteract that with exercise.

    i love food. LOOOOOOVEEEEEE FOOD! especially food that's not good for you. but i hate being a fatty more. :p
  2. Dustin

    Dustin Junior Member

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    I'm still very skeptical. I understand that different people/familes/cultures have different body types but I don't think that certain people are just destined to be overweight/obese. I don't buy it one bit.

    The body is a perpetual device of self-preservation and self-correction. It's designed to balance itself perfectly and will ALWAYS want to be in the best condition to survive. I've seen families where everyone is overweight (and you would be quick to make the assumption it 'runs in the family'), but if you spent 20 minutes observing them at a family gathering you would see the common traits among them that lead them to the way they are.

    It takes sacrifice to get in (and stay in) good physical health, most people can't/aren't willing to put that much effort for a number of reasons.
  3. Lord Kain

    Lord Kain Keeper of the Timeline Staff Member

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    ok dustin... check this out

    There's genes that were discovered that gives a propension to store fat (I'm not talking about any diseases).

    This genes takes part in evolution. In periods in which food was scarce, these people were surviving because they stored more fat. However, in a period in which food becomes unlimited, these people are inclined to become obese. But I must be clear with this... even if these people have a propension to be fatter, it can be compensated by eating healthy and exercise.
  4. Undertaker989

    Undertaker989 New Member

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    CHAINBLADE!! : Tell your GF to increase her calories for 1 month with CLEAN food, then go here:

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    DIET!!!!!!! (make sure she follows the female protocol):
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    The diet outlined in that link is called the "Palumbo Diet". Have her learn the "Palumbo Diet", and have her follow his advice to precision, no excuses.

    Then we can chat.
  5. Lord Kain

    Lord Kain Keeper of the Timeline Staff Member

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    That's quite ignorant man. Not all fat people are lazy. I don't like lazy one either, but let's not put them all in the same basket!
  6. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i tried to jerk off yesterday.
  7. Jishory

    Jishory Junior Member

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    isnt it safe to assume they are? atleast 90% of them are just lazy as hell and dont care, atleast from what ive seen, 90% being conservative
  8. demonizeZ

    demonizeZ Junior Member

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    I have to agree to that statements some what. Most of our life we have played in third world countries. To be more precise, regions with huge conflicts. I have seen some over weight people mostly malnourished; but i have never seen Obese individual in those regions. The more i have gone to well develop countries the more i have seen people with Huge weight issues. To me it seem that living under stressful conditions with limited amount of food, keeps body from going over weight.

    There are some time when individuals reach certain weight they should just realize its sink or swim. Find drastic ways to reduce food intake and if it cause them to die then so be it. As human we define every thing, so now we make overweight a disease. And now individual just blame problems on that, and rid themself from any drastic measures they themself are capable of taking to rectify such hindrance.
  9. darktides

    darktides Hot stuff tonight

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    I gained about 50 lbs over the last 7 years doing office work, I have lost about 15 so far and I am working on getting back to my weight from my freshman year in HS, about 175 ish
  10. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i just wanted to come in here and say saint seiya failed
  11. saint seiya

    saint seiya Junior Member

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    lmao u asshole. Im so sad my thread was a repost.
  12. mattdev

    mattdev liberal crybaby

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    I hate to say it, but you also need to be financially capable to lose weight. This is a broad generalization, but a lot of people that are overweight tend to be lower middle to lower class.

    Eating healthy costs a lot more than eating terribly, gym memberships are insanely expensive, and also having to buy a new wardrobe several times over racks up quite the bill.
  13. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    hahaah :p

    a friends mom lost a shit ton of weight and kept it down after going through weight loss sessions of swimming. so if anyone here wants to lose weight, find yourself a pool
  14. Dustin

    Dustin Junior Member

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    NO: Eating healthy does NOT cost more, number one because more than likely you will be eating LESS and number two because the products you buy (and cook for yourself) should be cheap and stretch longer. I bet a pot of veggie soup costs $5 to make and will net you 5 or 6 meals worth. You can make a pasta sauce up from a few cans of tomatos, some herbs and onions and have more than you'll know what to do with. I can give you people dozens of examples if you really want.

    Besides, the whole reason someone is fat is because they're a glutton and gluttony = money wasted.

    Yes but no: Gyms aren't the only way to lose weight. Getting outside with friends/co-workers is free, walking is free, bicycles can be had for practically nothing and are free to ride. There's a whole world out there to explore and it costs you nothing. A gym is a great way to exercise, but in reality all you're doing is trapping yourself into a routine that will eventually fail because it's painful to go to the gym every day and do the same bullshit. Weightloss isn't an instant process and that's what gyms try to promote.

    Yes: I agree and I've had to do it several times. However, the money I saved from eating well and cooking for myself has helped pay for the new clothes. Besides, that's a bullshit excuse. What a crock of shit :)

    Once again, been there; done that. A great portion of my weightloss was done while living with massive debt, making little money (or not working at all for nearly a year and living on UI) and being in the negatives every month. So it's a complete crock of shit.
  15. mattdev

    mattdev liberal crybaby

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    When I first started the weight loss game, it was a huge jump in cost. Before I was eating things like top ramen, microwavable burritos, hot pockets, TV dinners, etc. All of that stuff is ridiculously cheap. When you replace it with things like chicken breast, fish, whole grain breads (instead of white), fresh produce, etc, the grocery costs pretty much doubled. I wasn't just switching to less calories, but I ended up changing my entire eating habits all together. I cooked everything from scratch.

    You're right, a gym isn't the only way to lose weight. But it is nearly impossible to gain or maintain muscle without. Keep in mind that even if you've lost tons of weight by doing only cardio, you may end up with no muscle on your body and just be a skinny bag of skin :E. I'm also a person of habit, and at first it was pretty difficult to keep myself going to the gym, but it got to a point where I feel absolutely terrible if I don't end up going.

    The wardrobe thing was really hard, especially when you work in a professional environment. I would push myself to the limit and only buy new clothes when my old stuff was falling off me, but it was still expensive.

    I just recently hit the 100lbs lost mark and honestly it feels incredible. Sure I did have some months where it was really tight (this month being one of them), but I don't regret it at all. If I wasn't as financially capable as I currently am, I probably wouldn't have been able to do it.
  16. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    You know? People want to see most things in black and white. The obesity issue is representative of that. It's not all lazy gluttony and it's not all hereditary. It is agreed though, that cutting calloric intake and upping callory burning/metabolism is what it takes to combat it. Denial of the real causes by the person with the rolls and with the rest of society, is what keeps the problem escalating.
    I happen to think that there are a variety of ways obesity happens. I do think that gluttony plays a major role as well as economics. But to lump all obese individuals in the same category is kinda a narrow view. It is akin to saying all gay men are like richard simmons and all lezzies are like rosie. There are a lot more colors between the red and violet.
  17. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Has anyone noticed the adsense on top?

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    You think there is an oportunity for recreation there? I mean, we could attempt to invoke different ads with topic or keywords.
  18. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    I'm happy that I can eat whatever I want anytime I want, sit on my ass, and I still don't gain a pound.
    And what the hell about "she doesn't want to lose her figure" about having a kid?
    Lose her figure? Am I missing something? Looks to me like it ran away a long time ago.
  19. Lord Kain

    Lord Kain Keeper of the Timeline Staff Member

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    Dustin:

    You'Re right, you can manage with a tight budget and eating well, but it takes more preparation efforts.

    Unfortunately, and especially in the US, eating well is more expensive. As an example, if you compare the price of 100 calories of most refined food to their healthy counterparts, you'll have quite a surprise.

    But refined and prepared foods are a good excuse for the lazy, I agree to that. Eating them from time to time isn't really hurting. But daily... it's another story!
  20. Dustin

    Dustin Junior Member

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    I still disagree that it costs more. It may have cost YOU more Mattdev, but you can definitely make your dollar work on veggies and grains alone if you made the effort. However, it takes dedication and work and that's something most people aren't willing to do so they find excuse after excuse after excuse.

    Kain I'm sure if you compared it dollar to calorie, you would find it more expensive because of the empty, calorie filled foods for pennies but once again if you're creative and shop properly; you can make your dollar stretch very well. You're right that it takes a lot more preparation and planning and people think they don't have time or money for it.

    People are too close minded and will look for any excuse to shoot down something rather than just trying it.

    And the main problem here: If you're too poor eat right, you're too poor to eat. If you're too poor to eat, what the fuck are you doing driving, watching tv, using the internet, going to movies, etc, etc.

    And wiskas, I disagree completely. It is black and white: If you're not living a healthy life it's your own fault. The body is designed to preserve & balance itself and if it's not able to do that it's your own fault. Yes, there are small percentages of exceptions to this rule; but I'm not a PC person and I refuse to ignore the fact that 99% of people are lazy, gluttonous pigs with huge guts and huge excuses.

    The sooner they realize it, the sooner they can change their lives and that's something I want everyone to be able to do
  21. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    You can't want it if the narrow view is all you are willing to put out there.
    The "Ozzy and Harriet" show was black and white, real life is more like the evening news on Fox than that. There's a story behind everything that happens. Sure, you are right about some form of gluttony coming into play, that's a fact, what isn't a fact, but only an opinion, is the 99% part of your belief. Lumping basically every case together and putting the same diagnosis and motivation on it is a pretty narrow minded way to see what you admit is a problem. Don't you think? That was kinda like how the nazis thought.
  22. Dustin

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    I can only believe things that I've seen for myself and I haven't seen anything to disprove my opinion yet! I understand that things aren't so cut-and-dry in life but it's hard to feel differently when you really haven't seen much to tell you otherwise

    I do see what you're saying; everyone does have a story to tell and each situation is unique. I still feel that everyone will cycle back to the same set of fundamental flaws in the end though. You see where I'm coming from I think...

    However, the evening news on Fox is definitely not real life. :)
  23. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    You caught the "fox news" thing ;). I know how this is too, there are the 7 deadly sins and each has the propensity to bring ugliness to the forefront, none as equal and seemingly as unjustifiable as gluttony. Gluttony takes many forms, but none is as unsightly, albeit benign in the ways of effecting the world at large as obesity. The glottons that really have me sort of in a B&W way of vision, are the gluttons for power.....where there is no
    working definintion of the word: "enough". Those are the ones with character defects that tend to reach out and touch many thouseands, if not millions of people in adverse ways.
  24. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Eating healthy can be expensive, but I think I'm doing it on the cheap. Check out some of my selections:

    Breakfast - V8 and coffee = (<$1 total)
    Lunch - tuna (.75), steamed veggies (1.75), whole wheat crackers, olives, relish, and V8 = (<$4 total)
    Dinner - Indian curry lentils (2.25), anchovies (1.00), crackers, hummus, a diet pop
    = (<$4 total)

    My big expense, both in dollars and calories is beer. But even with that I probably spend less than 12 bucks a day. And VERY healthy. Well, except for the beer... :paranoid:
  25. Dustin

    Dustin Junior Member

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    wiskas I agree. Gluttony is definitely not just limited to obesity... anyone that hurts themselves or others with excess and addictions... alcohol, food, money, pride, whatever. It's all destructive

    Yeah guys, MSP has the right idea! If someone comes here and says they can eat for $2 a day by skipping breakfast, having instant noodles for lunch and mac & cheese for dinner I'll be quick to remind them about the snacks, sodas, energy drinks and probably countless pills they need to pop to keep themselves going through the day.

    If I was to guesstimate the cost of my meals for today:

    Breakfast: Bowl of cereal - $0.75
    Mid-morning: Fruit smoothie (made with frozen fruit, plain OJ, plain yogurt and milk) - $1.25
    Lunch: Bowl of spaghetti bolognese (ground beef, tomatos, onion, garlic, olive oil, tomato paste) - $3.50
    Dinner: Beef stew (Beef shortribs, carrot, onion, celery, potato, garlic, beef stock) - $3.50
    Snacks during the day: Apples, bananas, water - $1

    It's really not scientifically calculated here; but I think I'm pretty close and that only ran me $10 for the day, and I spare no expense on quality ingredients and definitely don't shop with budget in mind