California and new York don't even rank in the top 20. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...t-gun-states-from-mississippi-to-arizona.html It also appears that California's gun homicides have declined quite a bit since passing various gun laws (I still need to confirm the data). http://blog.bradycampaign.org/category/stand-your-ground-laws/ No disrespect meant to either you or tac but the fact that you aren't aware of rights being actively taken away shows that Americans are not doing their duty to be informed citizens and further illustrates my point, sadly you guys aren't alone, even I am not as up on everything that I should be (especially local politics). Again I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm just pointing out the facts. What do you guys think of this idea (it still doesn't address the real problem): All gun puchases require training first, everything from gun safety to gun control. It would be similar to a drivers license test. I'm sure we can all agree that driver education and various safety laws and safety improvements have lead to fewer auto related deaths, why would that not be the same for guns?