Reddit Migration

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by tweakmonkey, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. tweakmonkey

    tweakmonkey Webmaster Staff Member

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    Hey guys -
    I'm guessing a lot of you have seen instability with the forum in the past few weeks, and I wish I had an explanation for it but I don't. Unfortunately with my job, which is 50% driving cars during the day, sometimes I can't do anything about the server being down for 6+ hours at a time before coming back to the office to patch/reboot whatever's necessary.

    In my case, forums have proven to be just too high maintenance for one person that's got a regular job, the usual culprits being DoS or hack bots (usually Chinese based servers that constantly look for web sites to spam with whatever).

    It's just not something I can block and prevent by myself, and from the transition thread the consensus I received was that while everyone was interested in helping with the problems, nobody else had experience with the SQL/PHP/Apache and specific forum software to jump in and do it without training.

    Jubal/Smersh proposed an interesting idea: have Tweak3D's forum be replaced by a Subreddit. He event set this up:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/tweak3d/

    The plus sides:
    More stable
    Bigger community that could mingle with ours and help it grow
    We could still have a NSFW forum
    Doesn't cost anything
    Security/server/software updates are done by someone else
    Better mobile support, 3rd party Reddit tools and Imgur integration

    The bad sides:
    No avatars or signatures
    We lose all control of the administration, the site could eventually be 100% out of our hands
    We can't bump old threads, they'll always be archived on Reddit - this would make a thread like 950's Africa threads impossible (but he could link to his blog or post updates still). Instead a new thread would be added and people could reply, rather than bumping old threads.
    You can't use your T3D login so you would need a Reddit login if you don't have one now
    We can't host images directly on Reddit or add to our posts as easily (we can use Imgur and it's good though)
    All existing threads, users, pics and avatars would be gone as a functional forum, HOWEVER I could archive a static HTML replacement so people could go browse the archives, they just couldn't reply or use NSFW.

    There are other pluses and minuses too, of course. The main thing is I am looking for a solution to my problems and I get stressed when the site goes down, it's doubly bad when I'm working my 9-5 and can't fix it for hours on end. I just am unable to do so.

    The alternative to this plan is try yet another hosting company, hopefully save some money, and try again to support the existing forum software. No matter what we do on this front, forums do require periodic updates, regular spam prevention and a few hours of maintenance a month.
  2. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I have an aversion to that due to it being that way with our government as a whole. ;)
    I have noticed the downtime but would rather have the downtime and it be our own place
    rather than have outsiders tell us how we have to do it. While T3D may still be online in name,
    as a subreddit it wouldn't be
    the tweak . (just my 2 cents)
  3. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Dan and I have talked about this and I've thrown my 2 cents in as:

    Having Dan keep the Tweak3d domain up as a static blog (with the forum archives or something on it) and using Reddit as the forums. Since the forum database is the cause of the site going down this would solve that issue while still retaining a Tweak3d domain. Plus, with Reddit, the way it organizes threads, it will solve the complaints of the forums being "slow" as even with a few posts a day things will move quicker.
  4. tweakmonkey

    tweakmonkey Webmaster Staff Member

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    Just an update from yesterday: I had to update the forum software and disable a few plugins, in the process I accidentally killed the forum for about 24 hours. We had some back up script go haywire early in the morning which caused the SQL errors. I think everything is fixed now.
  5. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    But do you think Reddit will be able to handle all this traffic? I kid, I kid... :)
  6. namelessentity

    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    I spend most of my time on reddit anyway so I'm down.
    A lot of sports subreddits have "flair", so we could have something sorta resembling avatars if someone wants to figure it all out.
  7. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Yup, something we've discussed. You all just need to let us know what you want and if you want to make mini icons/avatars/flair we can get it hooked up. Already got some dong action for MSP planned.
  8. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Will I have to register on Reddit, or will the community be migrated along with the forum?
  9. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    "You can't use your T3D login so you would need a Reddit login if you don't have one now."

    I'd rather not go to Reddit but you gotta do what ya gotta do. If it's a money thing I can prolly pitch in a little.
  10. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    It's only a bit of money issue, it's mostly a time for maintenance and server stability issue.

    You will need to re-register.
  11. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    reddit is ok but i like our home right here.

    if you need more money let me know. ill toss down 50 or 100 bucks to keep this place alive for another year.

    i thought someone else other than Dan could fix the forum if need be? plus i dont mind the down time as long as we come back eventually.
  12. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    What I've seen over and over:
    Desperate moves never work out as planned.
    This kind of move seems more like taking cyanide to quell tooth pain.
    Will this community survive? it's already near terminal. So, why bother?
  13. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    I just made a post on the reddit sub, but I'll say it here as well:

    I have hardly been on T3D in quite some time, after all I don't use computers/internet much these days and what I do is pretty much from my phone for a few minutes a day. I will try to be around on reddit/t3d more, but until I have a cabin built and have internet run to it, I probably won't be doing a whole lot. Just wanted to say I'm still around and kickin.
  14. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    Reddit is alright but honestly it is nice to have our own place. It really is up to you Dan because you're keeping this bitch afloat. Reddit would make your life way easier.
  15. hans5849

    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    I'll move where ever. I don't post enough anymore though. Ever since nekked Nidex and GG it went downhill.
  16. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Nekkid Nidex? I am so happy that I don't visit the NSFW section. Much.
  17. gB dAvId x

    gB dAvId x thats what she said

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    i downvoted everyone