"Prepping"

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  1. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    So, this morning my cousin woke up and could not breathe. I rushed him to the hospital and while I was spending hours and hours in the ER waiting room, there was a show on NatGeo called "Doomsday Preppers", I watched probably about 15 episodes of it.

    The show covers people who prep for disasters. Most of them have pretty hefty setups, consisting of a supply of food to last a certain period of time, water, fuel, radios, guns, etc. Some of the people had built shelters in their homes, some had shelters in their homes and a "bugout" shelter in another place, and so on. I know there has been talk about this here on Tweak, I believe MSP has a stockpile of things, and I think wiskas as well(?).

    Anyways, some of these people have spent an exorbitant amount of money on this stuff. My question about prepping is this... where do you draw the line between prepping for survival as a "just in case", and a borderline mental disorder? One guy, who was a resident of Silverthorne, Colorado (I've been there, small town, elevation 9000ft) had spent $300,000 on a shelter 10 miles away, built in the side of a mountain (at 11,500ft), stocked with everything you could imagine to live for a few months. But, the kicker is this... his preparation was for a polar shift. He bought/built this shelter and had this huge plan because he was convinced that the impending doom was going to be a switch of the poles.

    Now, I'd say about 2/3 of the people on the show were prepping for a disaster that was somewhat reasonable. I can definitely, definitely understand the ones who were prepping for social uproar due to an economic collapse. I can also understand the one who was prepping for social uproar due to hyperinflation, and nuclear fallout. What do you consider reasonable, and what do you consider just crazy? Lots were prepping for electromagnetic pulse, which would render every electronic device useless. This I can also understand. Another was for solar flare, which is kind of stretching it for our lifetime, but they do happen once every thousand or so years I believe.

    So, what are your thoughts on this? Economic and financial collapse... understandable, in my opinion. Polar shift or the end of the world in 2012? Probably need to see a psychologist. Also, for the ones who have been prepping, feel free to share what you've done and what the doomsday scenario is that you possibly forsee.
  2. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    hows your cousin doing?


    yea, ive got all the shows downloaded. its a mehh series. theres also a show called doomsday bunkers. but yea, there are people out there thats spending lots of money to live off the grid and safely just in case anything happens. its outlandish but neat.
  3. Commissar Smersh

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    Lol Silverthorne
  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I take the same precautions but am not getting as carried away. I more or less already bugged out.
    I've seen the shows and caught a few great ideas from those guys.

    Now, more than ever I need to
    tend to my home security needs and develope a better plan. As a retribution to our county property
    taxpayers defeating a recent tax levy that included a 130% increase for the sherrif's office, the county
    pretty much shut down law enforcement and county corrections. felons are going to be booked and released,
    there won't be any responses to 911 calls all the remaining 3 deputies are going to do is write tickets.

    These are the realities of why "prepping" isn't such a bad idea. It's not about armagedon, it's about shit like I discribed as
    well as natural and man made dissasters. No need to take it to the extreems some do, but too much is better than not enough
    self sufficiency.,
  5. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    Honestly for a lot of these people I think it is as much a hobby as a real worry. It is just something to occupy your time and work on. Naturally, there are crazies that go overboard, but they are the people that would be crazy and fixate on something else if it wasn't this.

    As the Boy Scout Motto says though, "Be Prepared" and I believe in that, It doesn't mean be stupid though.
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  6. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Yeah, I've got a decent stockpile at this point. Nothing crazy, and all done pretty cheaply. Here's a quick list:

    Water: 100 gallons
    Water filtration/treatment gear

    Rice: 155 pounds
    Misc dried beans: 78 pounds
    Misc canned beans: 36
    Granulated sugar: 60 pounds
    Iodine salt: 6.5 pounds
    Diced canned tomatoes: 36
    Olives: 36
    SPAM: 12
    Salsa: 12
    Tomato sauce: 12
    Misc canned soup: 36
    30 day emergency food pale
    Beer brewing supplies for 2-3 months
    80 bottles of wine

    1000 (approx) rounds of mixed ammo
    Emergency radios
    Emergency flashlights
    Machetes
    Candles, matches, batteries, etc.

    I'm sure I'm missing stuff. I've just gradually assembled all that, just buying 20 bucks more a week at the grocery than we needed. My main pantry upstairs has even more, this is just the list of the stuff in long term storage in the basement. I figure we could live indoors for six months at least assuming we had a steady supply of rainwater. In a drought situation I would have to venture out to some nearby ponds and streams and things would get interesting. I've got my eye on one of those farmer 500 gallon storage tanks, but not sure where to conceal it.
  7. Commissar Smersh

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    I was going to mention that 100 gallons of water, especially for a family of 4 is not enough.
  8. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Oh lord, not even close. I punched in my numbers on the Momon calculator, and with just my dried goods (and water) I've only got 53 days. I figure with my canned items and other dry goods in the regular pantry 3-3.5 months tops.

    Here's the calculator, pretty neat:

    http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm
  9. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    One thing I did not see on your list: TP/buttwipe and hygein products. Those items are going to be imposible to come by in an emergency or collapse. One of the best all around things to stock would also be bleach. When the SHTF, whether it be natural dissaster or otherwise, keeping disease in check is going to be a real priority. Other items may include electrical wiring, tools and sheetmetals.
  10. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    I think it crosses the line when you are going about your life in order to "prep", versus prepping so you can (for lack of a better term,) go about your normal life

    Water heater holds a good amount of fresh water too =) That is the only reason I am hesitant to go tankless

    I am banking on tampons being in demand once everything goes to hell, I will trade that shit for ammo/smokes/whatever
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    Tampons?! Most people who need those won't have amo or smokes, but may trade you something else that is usefull. ;)
  12. MSP

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    ROFL! But I might have to take a raincheck on the payment, you know what I mean? :D

    But yeah, bleach I've got by the gallon. Hadn't thought about baby wipes or anything, that's a good idea. Normal paper products, toilet paper, paper towels, napkins, etc, I keep about 6 weeks worth already.
  13. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Just plain old bleach has so many uses for surviving any calamity. Medical supplys plus bleach and you're instantly the neighborhood ER in an emergency. four drops of bleach per litre of water will decontaminate it. It's an antiviral as well as antibiotic.
    I try to imagine just what materials/products will be hard to get, expensively prohibitive to buy or imposible to find in an emergency. food and water are the last thing I need to worry about as I produce my own and have an abundance of clean fresh water spewing (literally) from the ground. Being able to fight disease, repair essential things, sanitation, treat wounds/first aid and barter
    (IE: Toilet paper will be the new currency) for what I can't produce are where my priorities lie. I pity the people who live in the metros. Those places are going to be one big dawg-eat-dawg clusterfuck. definately not the places to be if/when calamity hits.