Porsche: The car from Bad Boys or my classic and simple 68

Discussion in 'Gearhead Garage' started by tweakmonkey, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. tweakmonkey

    tweakmonkey Webmaster Staff Member

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    Two really different types of cars here, and I could "switch" with little side effects short of costing a couple thousand bucks.

    I thought it was an interesting dilemma so I would post it up.

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    I have my 912 that I paid $4000 for. With all the parts and restoration work, once completed I believe the parts/car would fetch almost $10k. I have some really nice parts for it and it'd be a great car, including with new interior etc.

    There's nothing screaming wrong with this car and I love it-

    Good:
    -It actually has decent paint and a straight body, with little rust compared with most cars its age
    -Smog exempt, which is cheaper
    -Cheap to register/insure
    -Very simple
    -The back quarter panel windows and front corner windows open
    -Pretty rare, rare color
    -New interior (once I'm done working on it)
    -Inconspicuous
    -Quiet
    -I get props from people, mostly middle-aged or older people
    -Lightweight - ultra simple so it's a bit lighter than newer cars
    -Parts are hard to find, but sometimes surprisingly cheap

    Bad:
    -I get props from mostly middle-aged or older people
    -Shorter wheel base, making the car less stable, especially with an engine swap
    -Non-galvanized steel, so if driven in rain or god forbid snow, it would rust quickly
    -Less than optimal heating
    -No air conditioning
    -To make more power I would have to swap the motor. I have a 3.0 motor that'd be a great swap
    -The motor swap would change the balance of the car from a near-mid engine to a true rear-engine Porsche with a lot of weight in the rear, which has its pluses and minuses

    Enter this:
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    This is what $10,000-$12,000 can buy you in the 80s 911 world (if buying a newer 911 is indeed moving on up).



    It's a regular 1980 911 with a freshened motor and a profesionally done steel widebody kit with newer (965, aka 1991 911 Turbo) fender flares, rear bumper and front bumper with lights. Since it's painted black, it's actually a clone of the Porsche Turbo from BAD BOYS, if you've seen that movie.

    I test drove it.

    Good:
    -The body work is great, paint is mostly good
    -No rust, and it won't rust because the chassis is galvanized steel
    -Good motor, with upgrades runs excellent
    -Bunch of suspension upgrades
    -The AC seems to work, heater surely works well
    -Has the 3.0L motor with valuable upgrades, it would be really reliable and pretty fuel efficient
    -I'd get props from younger people, but more attention from police and unwanteds/vandalism

    Bad:
    -Old faded purple tint
    -Big 80s stereo (good one though)
    -Wrong wheels (I wouldn't do chrome and they're too narrow, so I'd need tires too)
    -Smog is due once every 2 years. The current exhaust would automatically fail. Other components may require replacing or luck to pass.
    -The cost to switch over would be a couple thousand bucks
    -Interior is neglected, I'd want to replace the seats and probably carpet
    -I'd have to sell my 912 after finishing stuff (aka own 3 cars at the same time and borrow a bunch of money, yikes), and it'd be a lot of work / time to sell the 1968.
    -I probably won't LOSE money on this car in the long run, but it might be harder to sell than my other car.

    With the right wheels and some work, it'd look a lot like this car:
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    It sounded something like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0vuizTr5U&feature=related

    Horsepower is about 200-220 compared with my 90 (my car's also about 700 lbs lighter though), and I have the same motor sitting in my garage if I wanted to swap it. It's not a TON of work, but it's a project. :)
  2. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Stick with the '68, like you said it's classic and understated.
  3. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    upgrade
  4. jake

    jake Vagabond

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    Stay with the classic.
  5. Octane91

    Octane91 <smartass comment> Staff Member

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    +1 for classic
  6. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    buy the 911 so i can buy your 68
  7. gB dAvId x

    gB dAvId x thats what she said

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  8. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    Stay with the classic. All I can think of when I see that 911 is a bald white man who went through a midlife crisis 30 years ago.
  9. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Classic.
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  10. Coleman

    Coleman fresh off the corner

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    My old boss had an 82 911 SC and it was a heap of junk. They look great but he was always having problems with that thing.

    I'd say keep the old one.
  11. -=Lurker=-

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    Classic. I hate old porsches converted to look like early 90's turbos...
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    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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  13. tweakmonkey

    tweakmonkey Webmaster Staff Member

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    I'm really happy with my 68 at this time. The coolest thing about even a 68 911 is you can upgrade components (and keep an old car) way into the 90s. I need to do some work on the car and post an update soon. :) Damn this rainy season.
  14. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    I'm also not a fan of the whale tale.
  15. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    weak.

    but, but, you can be part of the "everybody else club" with the 911
  16. gB dAvId x

    gB dAvId x thats what she said

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    The second car reminds me of the car that the boss from Office Space drives....
  17. sims

    sims walls of text

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    hmmm, its one of those "do what feels right to you" type of things.

    Neither is anywhere near the quickest car you could get for that money, in any regards obviously, but both are cool in there own rights. I really like the style of the 80's one minus the spoiler that could easily get removed, but to me the aggressive looks aren't really justified by any aggressive performance and that's something that always sours me abit with any car despite liking the style. unless you wanted to drop a powerful motor in and make it the monster it could be, I think id keep your 68.

    the classic is just that, a classic, a beauty in in own right, respectable, pure and nostalgic. its not fast, but thats not always what its about, its about whats fun and makes you happy. if you're finding it enjoyable and reliable, keep it. its a cool unique project, and one of the rare car occurrences where you may actually end up profiting from when its all said and done if you continue restoring it.