Pinball Expo 2007

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  1. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Pinball expo was this past weekend in Chicago. I'll forgo the usual mega post of pictures as upon review they look a lot like last year and the year before! But here's a short video that kinda catches the flavor of the event. I've got a bunch of photos of Expo and also that Volo car museum if anyone is interested.

  2. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    Man, I'd love to have that Demolition Man machine. Awesome.
  3. djsoulriot

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    Maybe it's just because of my younger age, but I don't think I've ever enjoyed playing pinball.

    Look's cool though, I need to visit more expos.
  4. bigwill51534

    bigwill51534 Saint, Church of Ryanism

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    That looks like it was a blast! I'd love to go to something like that. I'm feeling a road trip if I ever get the time off...... 8)

    ~Will Courtier~
  5. MSP

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    I actually owned one, my favorite machine to date.

    There are reasons pinball is in decline. Two main ones the way I see it:

    1) The rule sets got WAY too complicated. The modern pinball game is daunting, with very complicated rules and modes. This may satisfy the nerd who jerks off to the manual all night, but for the bread and butter guy putting coins in on location it's intimidating.

    2) Route runners have gotten lazy. By show of hands who has ever played a pinball machine in a bar or bowling alley that had something noticeable broken? Vids (video games) made the runners lazy. Solid state shit with no moving parts rarely breaks, whereas pinball machines have LOTS of moving parts. Broken machines = less people playing = less money = pinball dies. I hardly even see them on location anymore. :(
  6. braaains

    braaains gubble gubble

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    I love pinball. Everytime I go somewhere that has one I have to play.

    That being said, it's getting really rare that I find somewhere that has one.

    Beyond that, its harder to find one in decent shape.
  7. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    everytime i wanted to play a pinball machine it was broken..
    msps right.
  8. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I had my quarters spoken for, when I was younger. Didn't even want to put them in a machine.
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    The local Dave and Busters here is a good example of what is wrong with pinball. 8 years ago they had six pinball machines, including some of my favorites - South Park, Monster Bash, etc. They were all nice and new and worked well. Within a year the South Park began having mechanical problems - the mechanism that kept balls from draining back down into the shooter lane was broken, light bulbs started to burn out, flippers started to get weak, and finally some of the playfield toys (such as the Kill Kenny doll) began to malfunction. I'm certainly no repair wizard, but I know enough to tell you that all of the above problems could have been fixed for less than 20 bucks and an hour of labor. But the route runner was a lazy son of a bitch and did nothing. Soon nobody (including myself) was willing to put coins in the pieces of shit, and so 6 pinball machines turned to 3 and from 3 to 0.
  10. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    How much would it cost to buy one and refurb it? I'm guessing with the decline, they're pretty affordable. I was going to do a mame cabinet, but I got an NES-computer on the TV now, so I really don't need to, and I have a large area I need to put something in
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    Nice B-C list machines from the 80s and 90s can be had for $750-1500. You'd have to replace bulbs and perform maintenance from time to time, but in that price range you'd have something nice that was fully functional. 70s and earlier EM (electro-mechanical, i.e. no modern circuitry) can generally be had for around 500 bucks. Now the really nice, sought after B+ and A machines? Anywhere from $1,500 to $15,000! Titles like Medieval Madness, Big Bang Bar, Kiss (1979) bring big bucks.
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    I see at least a few in every arcade/bowlingalley/movie theater I go to.. and they're actually rarely broken. Granted I don't playtest the shit out of them, but it seems like the video games are the ones never getting maintenance. The chuck E cheese here has all of like one operational cabinet. And like, I think you can only play as Marge in that awesome simpsons fighting game.
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    Some problems you might notice, some you might not. Burnt out or very dim GI (general illumination) lights seems to be common, along with weak flippers. Modern games will compensate for broken features so sometimes it's hard to tell. You must be lucky, because the games on location near me are VERY broken generally.