No more Twinkies

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Greatbam, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Octane91

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  2. Sparky

    Sparky ¿sdooɥʍ

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    Clearly skimming isn't your speciality, lol.

    The latest news is that Hostess is in "11th hour talks" with the unions. The Teamsters already came to an agreement, but the other unions are still holding out.
  3. Commissar Smersh

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    Saw that the brand that owns PBR is interested too.
  4. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    all the twinkies are gone in the vending machines.
    everyones buying them thinking they'll be worth money 50yrs from now.

    brb storing twinkies in the attic.

    LMAO if fiat buys its gonna be hilarious
    the twinkie is like a staple in the american diet. theres no way it can just "go away"
  5. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Only the unions lose in this story. The brands we love will be picked up but another company, baked by non-union bakers, etc. Frankly I think we'll be seeing more of this, hopefully in Detroit too.
  6. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    The Bakery and confectionary workers union was broken by the big chain supermarkets long ago. These factory bakeries are all they have left.
    The AFL/CIO will definately take a huge hit.
  7. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Gotta love their reasoning (not). If they don't like it so much, why didn't they just QUIT and find other work? They have cut off their own noses to spite their faces, and I'd like to see these same union folks interviewed 2 years from now about their decision. The Teamsters were evidently super-steamed at the bakers/millers unions for pulling this.

    I loved reading the comments to this story, where one commenter said "You're not going to get alot of sympathy from people who work at gas stations, Wal Mart or McDonalds when you walk off a $35,000 a year job."
  8. Ranger

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    Yes its a shit situation for all involved. The comments and thoughts of many are in my opinion flawed though, its not a case of 'why does he have this and i dont, he doesnt deserve this'. More should be thinking 'what can i do to get that as well' Dont be fooled into thinking that there isnt enough to go around for all.
  9. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Oh there's more than enough to go around. For the cash that isn't bottle-necked up at the top, most are too used to someone else getting it for them.
    It's so easy to blame the big corps for taking jobs overseas, but in the end, it's the workers here that make it neccessary for big biz to do so, in a lot of cases.
  10. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    It used to be that unions helped the workers fight against the big greedy corporations. And then the unions became big greedy corporations.
  11. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    Yeah, god forbid workers want a piece of the pie. They've done a lot to hurt their own cause, but they "ma[d]e it necessary" for big business to go overseas (often to exploit workers there)? Come on.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/151351/ceo_of_walmart_makes_in_one_hour_what_the_average_employee_makes_in_a_year:_how_skyrocketing_inequality_is_hurting_america
    Sparky says thanks for this.
  12. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Just playing devil's advocate here. When I point out shit like you are, people on here used to fuck with me. So.....
    to get my point acrost, reverse psychology works and it works well against those that just like to argue with the old farts.
  13. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    unions were important and crucial to america's beginnings as industry booms began

    but now they're pointless, like everyones said.. theyre greedy entities on their own. and they manipulate and brainwash coworkers into joining their little "club"
    stupid shit, its not the 1920's anymore. despite the "poor economy and recession" theres work out there, theres money to be made.
    quit and go find another job thats more satisfying, swallow your pride and do something else with your sad immobile pathetic lives.

    i know first hand how corporations and businesses dont put up with that shit
    my mom was invovled in the union at sharp, those japs didnt put up with that shit, they packed up the production and moved to mexico. my mom retired before they left, but thats how it is.
    i remember as a kid reading all the union propaganda prints my mom would bring home, it was so childish and pathetic.
  14. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Union's fall came back in Prohibition, when the agreement between Ford and the Mob gave gangsters a retirement plan in return for leaving the company alone. Unions were a popular mob target for takeover, as a tool in the "protection racket" business, I think... :)

    It's kind of the human story in a nutshell. People fought and died to gain a voice in their fate by making an organization, then the organization would be stolen by some strong-arm group with a charismatic leader, and their voice would be stolen and corrupted, and their fight and their deaths would be used for other's benefits, while they received just enough from the organization to put up with the strong-arm tactics in return for protection from the "worse evil" of the bosses.

    Rather than Unions, I blame human beings for the mess we're in. Wherever this stuff happens, you can bet there are human beings involved!

    Humans are the head-lice on the face of Planet Earth. :) I'm not quite sure if I'm joking or not! ;)
  15. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i can confirm, i was headlice
  16. mistawiskas

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    Kinda sounds like an analogy for big guv VS we the people too ;)
  17. JZL

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    It's stuff like this this that illustrates why I'm a moderate. I think there's still a place for unions, but like most things, they can be abused. What worries me is that if wealth continues to become more concentrated, unions' significance may increase. However, if we aren't somewhat vigilant, they could become illegal as they were back in the late 19th-century robber-baron days (or rendered functionally useless).

    There's an early Philip K. Dick book set on Mars (Martian Time-Slip?) where many of the towns were named after mid-20th-century union leaders, e.g., Samuel Gompers (had to use the google on that one). Obviously that didn't happen . . .

    (It's also sorta neat that in some of these older sci-fi stories, the time-in-the-future has now come and passed and we're nowhere near as technologically advanced/regressed as was predicted-- 1984 being the prime example)
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    I've seen some of the employees at walmart. They get paid more than their counterparts in other establishments here.
  20. Goofus Maximus

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    This is where whiskas "money is air" theory comes round to bite the strikers. If they get "a decent wage", then prices will go up to the extent that they are no better off now than before, without a wage increase which will drive up prices to the...

    That's the start of a classic inflation cycle. As I've posited before, we never left the stagflation of the 70's. We just masked it in a multitude of bubble/bust cycles and money concentration toward the top.
  21. mistawiskas

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    Yup.....there's only so much "air" to go around. Sometimes I think that the Democrats are on the right frame of thought when talking/insinuating
    "re-distribution of wealth". The only catch is, there's no legal way to do it or there's no benefitial way or both. Remember Nixon's price/wage freeze? That really didn't do much more than postpone
    the inevitable.