Limbaugh/Maher

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Tacdriver, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    I like how you use the term "Issue birth control" as if we live in China! I'm not ignoring anything. I wonder how many girls have dropped out of Georgetown due to an unexpected pregnancy? Probably never find those stats. I'm guessing not many over the years. This will increase costs across the board if implemented because so many will be on the dole.
  2. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Most women are already using birth control.

    And children have become a drain on households expense wise. Allowing individuals to chose when to have children and women to chose who they have them with is worth whatever financial cost.
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    nidex Hood Rich

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    Oh for fucks sake. First of all, Planned Parenthood gives out FREE condoms, all you have to do is walk in there and ask. I'm sure they give out female condoms too, obviously I've never asked for any of those.
    The one thing I never understood is the far-right crazies that want to cut funding to PP. When I took my girl to the abortion clinic, they were all shouting in my and her face about this and that, the usual. Mostly religion "find Jesus" stuff. I was getting sick of them trying to hold pamphlets in my face, I told them that we weren't even there for an abortion, and to get the hell out of my face. They then started to ask me if I agreed with abortion, I said yes I have no problem with it. They went on about killing babies and this and that, I said "so you're a republican right?" "yes" "alright, so since half of these people probably can't afford these kids, you have no problem with them going on welfare and your taxes supporting the child, right?" "well... no..." and then the one who was talking to me became silent. Nothing to say? Thought so.

    People are going to have sex. Dumb people, smart people, rich people, poor people, white people and black people. I know I'm kind of going off on a tangent, but there's people that want to cut funding to Planned Parenthood, so no more free condoms, appointments, etc. But they have an issue with their tax money paying to support children whose parents go on welfare. So... you want to get rid of the place that helps control the population, therefore kids will be popping out left and right... but then you have a problem with the ones who can't afford it going on welfare? Makes perfect sense. Because you know, abstinence totally works.

    Anyways... certain forms of contraception are fucking free. Take advantage people.
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  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Nidex has made the most usefull post thus far.

    Insurance cost so much because most every doctor is working hard to get a portion of the insurance dollar pie. Insurance comanies require more and more profit margin to keep investment dollars from dwindling.
    Vicious cycle and it's unsustainable. I'm just wondering when this house of cards is going to fall.
  5. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    The Walking Dead is by far one the best programs on TV thus far. Now I'VE made the most useful post!
  6. namelessentity

    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    Planned Parenthood will give you free BC if you say you have no insurance. It's easier and cheaper to lie than it is to legitimately get BC having insurance. I'm not sure why it's a problem that she wants the insurance she pays for to cover something. I don't think it's okay to say "we don't cover this" because of some bullshit moral high ground. Cover it all, or cover nothing if you ask me.
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  7. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Just as it costs me 800 bux out-of-pocket for a colonoscopy if I do not have insurance and 1200 bux co-pay if I do. There's something definately wrong with insurance coverages and health care costs, but there seems to be a real lack of interest in fixing a system that is obviously broken.
  8. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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  9. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    nidex Hood Rich

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    I don't think that whale has anything to worry about when it comes to people trying to get in her uterus.
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    nidex Hood Rich

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    I don't think that whale has anything to worry about when it comes to people trying to get in her uterus.
  12. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    I'd hit it! ;)

    Yeah, I just found the graphic funny. The message is funny/true, and the depiction of Fluke (or whomever) as a fat ugly whore just made me lol.
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    nidex Hood Rich

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    Holy shit, a double post? Haven't seen one of those in a long time.
  14. thadood

    thadood I Am The Black Wizards

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    I don't understand why people are actually backing Rush on this. Do these people realize how often BC pill regimens are followed because of either medical issues they help out or simply because it allows for easier control of their cycle? The majority of women I know that take it, take it because of something other than as an actual form of birth control.
  15. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    As I said earlier in this thread, that makes sense. Yikes. 2 cents without reading the whole dollar.
  16. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    I agree while nit agreeing. His language was wrong. She was speaking for people other than herself. However, by testifying before congress she becomes a public figure, open to peer review. Rush is obviously a blowhard, and used coarse language to further his agenda. I fully support his 1st amendment right to say what he wants to say.

    I don't support anyone begging the government to give them mote "free" shit, regardless of the reasons.
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    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    That's pretty much where I coming from on this. The more we want someone else to making our lives easier, the more they own us.
  18. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    No one is asking for free shit! They pay for health insurance, it's something that should be covered, it's preventative medicine.
  19. Commissar Smersh

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    But women who want birth control are cock hungry whores! America shouldn't subsidize their nymphomania!
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    [grabs bottle of lube and runs off to wait outside of CVS]
  21. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    The price comes out of the insurance fund pool that every rate payer pays into. That pool is only so deep. The higher the demand for profit margins that are acceptable to investors,
    the less that insurance pool will pay for. IMHO: the cost of buying coverage is prohibitive unless it's a portion of an employment compensation package. The offering of
    employer based insurance is on the decline. This creates a situation where those that do get it, will have to contribute more to have it and even fewer employers will be able to afford
    insurance for their employees and stay in business at the same time. Meanwhile investors demand the highest dividends possible, doctors, big pharma and health providers
    siphon off as many insurance dollars as possible and rates go through the roof.
    And the vicious cycle continues.
    Then more people go on medicaid for major medical. we pay again!....................you bet there's no "free shit".
  22. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Holy tinfoil batman.

    Again, as has been stated by myself and others multiple times in this thread:

    It is cheaper in the long run for insurers to pay for birth control as a preventative measure.

    Cheaper.

    Costs less.

    Saves money.

    Good economics.

    Capitalism friendly.
  23. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I'm not arguing against those principals. I'm arguing on the reality that "preventative" measures are not what the system is geared for. The system is geared towards what is going to get the highest dividends for shareholders. Our system is broken and will remain so as long as it's a "for profit" system. I think, personally, that all contraceptives should be covered. But, the way it works now, is that to cover contraception, something else gets cut or rates increase for everyone. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/business/14health.html?_r=1
    I'm not going to claim that it's a fact that the corporations that seem to finance legislation are totally addicted to unsustainable record profits. But......I will say that it certainly has the appearance of that being reality.
    I'm not against profitting, so long as it's sustainable, equitable and reasonable.
  24. Tacdriver

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    Show me some stats. It makes sense but I tend to lean toward the educated Female that makes good decisions.
  25. MSP

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    I don't have any links, but I've seen studies to back up what Smersh is saying. It's like the reduced crime rates following Rowe Vs Wade, just a truth that some folks don't like to be true.