Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Tacdriver, Mar 9, 2012.
School is serious business. No hanky panky. Got it.
Also abstinence only education totally works.
And if you really don't want to get pregnant keep that Tylenol between your knees.
Though I heard her on top also works.
Can college students use coitus interruptus or is that a sin still?
I assume you also disagree with Viagra being covered then?
How about Mom and Dad pick up the cost? If they can afford Georgetown, and it's a given that their daughter can't control herself, what the hell? I mean she's going to do it anyway right?
Total Bullshit! The problem IS it about FEMALE contraceptives not MALE contraceptives. If this was about male contraceptives we wouldn't be having this conversation.
She can't control herself? LOL. You've turned into Rush.
If you girls are having sex it's because you're out of control MEGASLUTS.
Serious post: Tac, do you just have the one son?
Don't put words in my mouth to help your argument. I've called no one anything. I also don't think a woman is a slut if she's had just as much sex if not more than what's considered acceptable for a man. No double standards here. I have a son and a daughter.
In the long run don't contraceptives keep health care costs down? Isn't it super-expensive to provide health care for pregnant women and then their kids? Oh shit, I forgot-- you can't charge insurance premiums on children that don't exist. We don't give a flying fuck that the world is way overpopulated, we just need to keep women producing more of the "insured." :\\
I don't have to put words in your mouth:
You've flat out said that this girl having sex means she's out of control and can't reign in her urges.
No. What that all means is engage in activities that one can afford. Plain and simple. You're actually the one kinda saying that it's a joke to expect students to act responsibly. You do this by taking jabs at the expectations I and many others in society have...including the people flipping the bill for their education. How many kids have you put through college since you enquired about my kids? Oh and no, Viagra the boner pill shouldn't be covered even though I hear it is. As a heart med as it started, yes it should be covered.
It is a joke if you really think college kids should abstain.
You're questioning my credentials on commenting on this issue because I haven't put kids through college? Hilarious considering I've been putting myself through college without any assistance. And once again, you seem to imply that somehow society is footing the bill for this girls education.
Do you actually read or just skim? I said "those in her plan or the university." Again you assume or are trying to twist my words.....HILARIOUS considering I asked only the amount of children you have put through college. That's reasonable since you asked about my kids. I still don't know why though since it was a "Serious post." The rest of your portion of this thread I gather was in jest. Alright then, I'm out and good luck with the studies. Kudos for putting yourself through college without any handouts or sense entitlement.
What's the sollution?
Just stop paying taxes?
The people that can afford any form of insurance get BC, the ones who can't afford BC, breed. Idiocracy in the making.
I vote for just making people be responsible both financially and consequencially for thier own actions.
You fuck around, get pregnant or buy your own BC. People lean too heavily on insurance, insurance and medical care
know this and the vicious cycle of spiraling cost continues. It only costs so much because people will pay it.
My point as well....I think. What's BC mean?
I bitch and moan about living the consequences of my life decisions, but by golly I do them. I expect no one else to get me out of the
shit I get myself into. People have gotten used to and have come to expect that they can buy their way out of consequences.
The obesity rate in this country is one example. The birth rate of the poor compared to the educated rich is another.
There's a huge market for "get-out-of-jail-free-cards". The cost of insurance and the size and scope of government confirms this.
There's a rising number of hard working middle class that are having to do without insurance because employers can't stay in business
and pay the extortionary premium rates to supply it. As this trend progresses, it will leave two sectors of the population that can obtain health care:
the poor and the wealthy.
I could be considered a qualifier for public healthcare assistance but will not contribute to the problem.....call it stubborness.
I don't care for a life composed of sucking the public-funded tit. Likewise, I don't buy into the fear game that big pharma/health care want me too.
If any health issues are going to take me down....oh well, we all get a turn regardless of how big a healthcare insurance premium we can afford.
Birth Control *shakes head* thank you.
What's the point of health insurance? Is only for catastrophic care? Should it cover preventative care?
Why is insurance so high? Is it because it is used to cover catastrophic events? Wouldn't preventative care bring the costs down?
I get the whole personal responsibility thing, I do. I wish people were responsible for their actions but we don't live in that world. What I can tell you is that as people start taking advantage of preventative care they will become more responsible.People are going to do stupid shit no matter what, so why not give them something that minimizes the impact of their stupidity?
And if the argument is, "I don't want to pay for something for someone else, for something I don't use" is just plain stupid. That's how insurance works, you put money into a pot and a veriety of things are covered, the more people put into the pot, means more things can be covered.
^^^ I agree with most of that. But it should be the world we live in. Natural selection needs to be reinstated - the stupid, lazy, foolish, and crazy shouldn't be thriving and reproducing, much less with my money. It's an unfortunate truth, but as a species we need people starving and dying at the bottom in order to keep the herd healthy. Good behavior = thriving, bad behavior = misery and death. It's the only system that has been proven to work. Just re-watch Idiocracy (as mentioned above), is that the world you want your grand kids to live in?
Anyway, it's a long way from the whole birth control thing, but it's the root of the matter. Liberalism is a slippery slope and has led to the mess we're in right now.
That's how insurance works, you put money into a pot and a veriety of things are covered, the more people put into the pot, means more things can be covered.
But she wants contraception covered because she can't afford it. Why should everyone's costs rise to cover this? Her's included as well as others that can barely afford their current premium. Sounds like wanting those that can afford it to pony up MORE for those that can't. I don't remember The Bill Of Rights mentioning anything about health care.
Tac, you're ignoring what's been stated several times over in this thread already. It saves insurers and subsequently those insured as a whole more money to issue birth control as a preventative measure than to cover unwanted pregnancies, health risks, etc.
America has a completely perverse view on healthcare. We're a first world nation, the strongest and most influential in the world and by far the wealthiest. At this point in our society, healthcare should NOT be a luxury and should be something available and affordable to the masses.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were not made to be set in stone, they're the foundation of our government but their living breathing documents. Societies change. People change. Technology changes. Economies change. There's no reason a 200+ year old document should hold us as a people back.