Learning how to ride?

Discussion in 'Gearhead Garage' started by nidex, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    Well okay, I've ridden motorcycles before a few times, I know how to ride/shift/keep balance, etc. Yesterday I rode my friends 2006 Yamaha FZ6 with exhaust, it was fun as hell, but

    basically I want to be more comfortable with riding and have confidence in myself to do more things. I didn't fuck around too much on the FZ6 because for one it isn't mine, and two I don't trust myself enough. Everytime the wheel started to lift too far off the ground I'd let off and such like that, so my question is, what's a good bike that I can buy for not too expensive, but has a decent amount of power?

    And do you guys have any suggestions/tips?
  2. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    the sv650 is a great starter bike nad can be had for cheap

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    can be had used for around 4K. Its a naked bike, so dont expect too much on top end, but its good to go in low rpms. also, you save on insurance since its nekkid.


    other than that, I'd suggest your usual 600's kaw zx6r, cbr600f4i for mostly cruising, 600rr if you wanna track it alot.

    I dont recommend the r6. The r6 is an awesome track bike, but not very good for daily driving. not much low or midrange its all top end, and the ergonomics arent very good for dd.

    myself, i am getting this bad mamajamma

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    Triumph Daytona 675

    Liquid-cooled, DOHC, in-line 3-cylinder
    (123bhp) at 12,500 rpm
    53ft.lbf) at 11,750 rpm

    its dominating on the track, and thanks to an awesome torque curve, its great for DD.
  3. PeNZ

    PeNZ Tweak OG

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    Sounds like a civics specs
  4. Miller

    Miller Tweak Guru

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    because civics really run at those rpms


    anyways, you can buy my bike, great learners bike but i think i'm going to buy a new one


    82 honda nighthawk 450
    decent power, cheap, runs like a champ
  5. Coleman

    Coleman fresh off the corner

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    Miller I would buy the hell out of that bike if i were closer! I've been wanting a 450 Nighthawk as my first bike for the past year or so but I just don't have the money or time atm.
  6. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    I don't know if this tip is any good but make sure whatever bike you buy you can lift it up by yourself off its side, or onto the center stand.

    I wish my first bike had a kick start to supplement the not so reliable electric start.

    I don't know how hilly it is where you live but maybe consider finding a steep one and get some practice starting from a full stop, so when you need to do it you don't ruin that cool biker look by stalling it.

    Buy something for 500 or less and ride it into the ground. Do all the crazy shit that you would never do on a nice bike without having had practice.
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    Billkoz New Member

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    They have rider courses at wctc. From what I know it's not that expensive. And they test you for your lisence at the end of the course, that way you dont have to do it at the dmv.
  8. Nothing.

    Nothing. G-Riot

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    Yeah they set up a little coarse outside with some cones and have like 10 bikes lined up and you do your test.
  9. Miller

    Miller Tweak Guru

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    good luck getting in now.

    do what i did, have bill tech you on your stepdads bike when hes outta town


    well retail on my bike is 1095$ and trade in is 690 so how about 850

    ill even throw in a helmit
  10. Coleman

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    850 and you transport it to VA because I'm in summerschool everyday until August :(

    oh and I'll need years to get that money because I'm paying rent at 2 different places now. Cool? Good. See you soon.
  11. Miller

    Miller Tweak Guru

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    hmm, well ill be going to flordia in october get the money by then, is virginia ont he way to flordia??
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    LMAO, you are an idiot. No wonder you drive a grand prix or whatever the hell that automatic pos is.
    The civic makes like 140hp at like 8000rpm buddy....



    Either way, that is really fucking impressive having 3 cyclinders putting out that kind of power. Thats the one thing that I love about bikes, when you buy it, the engine your purchasing is seriously a fucking racing engine. Its tuned exactly for performance, not emissions or anything else that regular cars go through, but for performance.
    I mean when it comes to a bike you really don't need anything else if you want added performance, its pretty much maxed out at the factory. Even slapping on a yoshimira exhaust probably will only give you like 5hp more lol, Im guessing they are strictly for the sound.

    Damn.. I want to ride again...
  13. Coleman

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    US spec civics rev up to 8k or is that redline? Also, wouldn't the 140hp come earlier in the powerband than 8k anyways?

    Not trying to be picky or anything just wondering..
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    140 @ 6300
    128 @ 4300

    a little off there penz
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    Well assuming that the redline is at 8k, and the civics top power is 140hp, it would make no sense at all to have that peak hp at a lower rpm than redline. Then why would redline exist?

    Redline exists becuase thats the maximum rpm that the engine still makes power. Alot of retarded people want the 10k redline with their cars, and when they get the balancing/flywheel to do it properly, they don't realize one thing. They don't make any more power past factory redline without porting.

    Correct me if im wrong, but the engines maximum volumetric efficiency is at redline, so the only way to increase that is to give the engine more air to breath at regular atmospheric pressure. So porting in other words would allow you to increase your redline and still make power. Am I right on this?
  16. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    you are wrong, most engines do not make max hp at redline. shifting at redline is not always the smartest way to go either. it all depends on gearing, and torque. basically the combined powerband of your engine, and the way your gearing is set up. Take for example the evo. If you shift at redline you will lose to someone who shifts a little lower (dont remember the exact rpm)

    example

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    Yeah thats what I was getting at Jackalope- thanks for clearing that up.
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    Then wouldn't 100% of racers shift at redline?

    Shift = Peak Power

    Room to shift = Nice

    Think of a wheelie.. if peak was at redline, it'd be hard as hell to go through the gears while power wheeling. You'd 'spin-out' the engine.
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    Ive got no complaints with my 600rr Love it for my DD...