Lance Armstrong...chime in

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by MaesterB, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    It has been pointed out to me that he waited this long to confess, purely for the reason that the 7 year statute of limitations for perjury has finally run out. That tells me that he's still being more calculating than "sorry". :)

    I'm not a fan of bicycle racing anyway. Bicycling is it's own reward, and competing against others just dilutes the joy, to my mind!
  2. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i like what shabaz said.
    why couldnt he have used that as a backup excuse? lol

    i wanna know who he plans to rat out, dis gon b gud.
  3. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    Who he plans to rat out? I thought everyone that was doping already confessed to doping. At least those that were on the US team with him.

    He was the King of doping and he won a ton of races so I don't understand the concept of him ratting anyone out.

    Are you saying the sponsors knew about his doping and funded it or something?
  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    There are allegations of the UCI being corrupt and actively covering up doping for some individuals/teams. This could get interesting provided there is evidence and not just accusations.
  5. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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  6. namelessentity

    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    I honestly don't even care. When they claim 80% of the people were already doping then I don't know how they can really claim he had an advantage. Sounds like a pretty level playing filed to me at that point.
  7. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Just like most pro sports.....it's all about the money.
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    I guess when pageant contestants are automatically disqualified for having plastic surgery to enhance either their face or figure......then and only then, will I give 2 shits about pro/college athletes taking drugs or doping. Women want equality across the board right?
  9. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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  11. Sparky

    Sparky ¿sdooɥʍ

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    *yawn*

    He's still a cycling legend and a charity superstar who kicked cancer's ass. There's a lot of grey area in enforcing a "level playing field" and besides, he pretty much invented the rubber bracelet. FREE LANCE!

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  12. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    I officially don't like this guy. He really is a sociopath. That image that everyone has is even more hype and hot air than is usual for athletes, and this article explains why...
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    A legend because of finding better ways to cheat niiiiiiiice! Very legendary!
  14. Sparky

    Sparky ¿sdooɥʍ

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    Because taking performance enhancing drugs accounts for 100% of your overall skill. :rolleyes:

    He said that the time he came in 3rd he was racing cleanly, if that makes a difference. You try cycling through the mountains of France, lol. IT'S ALL A CYCLE OF LIES!!11

    Obviously he broke the rules here, but he's not a mass murderer or whatever. He rode a bike and started a cancer charity and cheated a little in the process. I guess that kinda skews some people's opinion of him as a role model, but if your role models are athletes, you should probably reassess your life.
  15. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Well, he IS a mass murderer of reputations. ;)

    People are people. The bad ones are never as bad as they're made out to be, and the good ones are never as good as they're made out to be. But being human, we all seem to like our stories about good people and bad people.
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    Which is why I hate movies with one-dimensional bad guys. That's not how people work; they don't live for being BAD. People have what some may perceive as flaws in judgement, but ultimately we're all just human and we're going to err. This is why shows that focus around antiheros are so successful (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Dexter). I wrote my senior thesis on the successful execution of antiheros in literature and other media so don't get me started on that, lol.
  17. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I have 1 ex wife that will blow that statement completely out of the water. ;)
    There is not a single good portion at all in that woman.
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  18. Torx

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    in b4 most of us end up on TRT or test for a healthier overall male lifestyle over 30 years of age.

    its sad to see everyone build him up, and tear him back down.
    everyone should be ashamed of themselves.

    for those that wanna know whats really going on, watch this episode with victor conte. aka balco case, aka the steroid distributor king, aka creator of the clear steroid that passed all tests.
    listen to what he has to say about the olympics, how dirty it is, how dirty they KNOW it is, and how dirty they keep it because of the money.
    you all are fools for buying into the hype train to bring the man down, its sad cause he was played, used, and pimped.
    take away the cyclists in the top 50 that are doping, and the first man to cross the line thats clean would be number ~27. c'mon bros, lets be real. noone wants to see boring old times, and jumps, and slow runs, people wanna see excitement and explosive human agility. the only way you can get that is with steroids.

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  19. mistawiskas

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    Once money gets involved, this shit is the natural outcome. Same with anything else.
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    I really don't recall cycling involving a lot of skill it is mostly like running where endurance is the most important thing.

    I think people automatically look up to people that make it on tv to a certain extent. I am sure there a lot of people that that statement might not apply but I would also say that there are a lot of that that does apply to.

    "Because taking performance enhancing drugs accounts for 100% of your overall skill."

    I could see you making a statement like that in regards to Barry Bonds for example where I don't see how steroids would really help him with hand / eye coordination but did allow him to swing the baseball bat faster.
  21. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    I read something earlier today that said most people shouldn't be pissed at lance. he didn't screw you out of retirement (bernie madoff,) your stock accounts (enron, aig, etc.,) or anything else. He maybe hurt your feelings, but it was nothing concrete. Is he a douche and an asshole? Sure! But he did a bunch of good for cancer, even if it was to feed his ego. The people that he fucked over by trashing in the whole process though - like the lady he said "at least I didn't call her fat." ? I would imagine its open season, they can rip him a new one. Those are the ones that have a right to be pissed. Everyone else? Find a new hobby, cycling is boring again

    Not that it involves a ton, but there is still some. I still think competitive cycling is stupid, but my dad did it for a while, and there is a lot of strategy involved in drafting, hill climbs and passing. Endurance and conditioning still trump all though. Also, his skill in doping apparently allowed him to ride a bike faster, so there is that. If you're not first you're last.
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  22. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    theres something behind it all.

    like victor conte said about how much money was spent to take him down, over 20 units of steroids... you'll begin to see its much more than just outing a man over cheating.
    its a bigger behind the scene game going on.
    usually shit like this distracts the general public when the gov is busy pushing paper and laws behind the citizens backs.

    i dont give a shit what anyone says, im on this guys side.
    none of us know him personally so theres gonna be alot of gossip, lies, and heresay about him.
    i see him for what he is, much like how someone can separate a musician's skill from his personal asshole life. same thing.

    i follow alot of athletes that i know are juiced up, and they lie about it too, but i still enjoy their entertainment.
    most are forced to lie about it, or their career is over.. and some just get caught up in the spotlight.

    people act like the guy stole money out of their bank accounts or robbed their grand mama.
    its not right, and its petty and stupid.
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  23. mistawiskas

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    That's true, It really isn't any sweat off my back. (see sig)
  24. Greatbam

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    Ok, so what your saying is you believe a habitual bold faced liar and you don't believe what his former teammates say?

    People trusted this guy and gave him money. So basically he lied and told a good enough lie for people to give him money. He basically screwed up the world's trust level more than what it was. How about that?

    I guess what you have said is that you are alright with people lieing and cheating? Screw rules and laws!

    Rules and laws are meant to be broken right?

    Look up honor and integrity in the dictionary.

    I sure as crap don't want to be around liars and cheaters and avoid them like the plague.
  25. mistawiskas

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    It sounds almost like you just discribed every politician. :)
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