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  1. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    That is a good point. Though people still buy civics and rice them out to hell.
  2. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Yes but no where near as many that buy mustangs and run them stock.
  3. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    i don't see how android is just "potential" and the iphone "just works". android phones "just work" just as well as iphones do. I know people that are not nerds that have had iphone and android and it was no problem for them switching. android is just as easy to use stock, yet it has the potential to do a lot more. the civic vs mustang argument doesn't make sense to me because the nexus one is faster than the iphone 3Gs. android phones are not necessarily plain like civics either. i'd argue HTC, the main hardware manufacturer for android phones, makes better looking phones than Apple anyways.
  4. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Have you used an iPhone for more than a week?
  5. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    yes, and your point?

    by the way, I'm not bashing the iphone. I've said it countless times before. It's a great device. but it is no longer leaps and bounds above everything else out there now. You can argue that android is better (to each their own of course) while before it was a no contest.
  6. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    10 things Android phones do better than the iPhone (copy paste from a truck forum i frequent)

    1: Browsing

    Let me first say I do like the Safari browser on the iPhone. It’s fast, it’s reliable, it’s stable. But flexible? Flash? Monopolistic? Yes Safari is the only browser for the iPhone, and that browser still does not do Flash. However, the Android browser is one of the best browsers on the mobile market. On my HTC Hero, I have Opera Mini, Dolphin, and the default Browser. I haven’t used Opera Mini since I used it a couple of times upon installation. Dolphin is outstanding, with its use of Tabs and Gestures. But the default Android browser just can’t be beat. It usually loads pages faster than Safari, has Flash support, and simply does everything a browser should do.
    2: Desktop

    Instead of just having icons littering your phone’s desktop (like the iPhone), the Android phone adds widgets to the desktop. These widgets tend to have an actual purpose. For example:

    * The Twitter Widget allows you to update your Twitter status from your mobile desktop.
    * The People Widget allows you to enable different actions for different contacts right from your desktop (say you want to call your wife with a single click and text your child from a single click).
    * The Messages Widget allows you to instantly see your email from the desktop.

    The Android desktop is on a completely different level from the iPhone desktop. To compare them is actually unfair. Apples to Éclairs as it were.
    3: Connectivity

    On one of the “pages” of my Hero desktop, I have four buttons:

    * Turn on/off bluetooth
    * Turn on/off Wifi
    * Turn on/off Mobile Network
    * Turn on/off GPS

    These buttons let you instantly switch on or off the various connectivity options, which will go a long way toward conserving battery life. There is also an app in the Market called Y5, which will turn off Wi-Fi automatically when no known wireless network is available. To do any of this on the iPhone, you have to go into the Settings screen and navigate your way around the various options.
    4: PC connection

    Unlike the iPhone, you don’t need to have iTunes to manage your phone. Now, I say this with a bit of a chewed-up tongue because Android can’t sync with the Linux desktop yet. That’s okay for now. But Android can mount the SD card so that it is usable (via drag and drop) by any operating system. On this you can add music and files, which will then be usable on the phone. Simple.
    5: Multi-notification

    One of the issues I’ve always had with the iPhone is its notification system. Basically, it depends upon a single system that not all applications have access too. For instance, if you are a Twitterer, you can find out if you have updates only by opening the Twitter app on the iPhone. With Android, the apps have access to the notification system and can all report. The notification bar on the Android phone can alert you to new voice messages, email messages, Facebook notifications, new Gmail, new text messages, and much more. If an app has a notification, it can let you know quickly, and in the background.
    6: Endless personalization

    I hesitate to place this on the list because so many readers seem to think user-configuration is worthless. It’s not. The Android phone allows users to configure their mobile to look and behave exactly how they want it. If you’re a social network power user, you can have a screen for Facebook, one for Twitter, one for texting, and one for Flickr. Or if you are a business user, you can have a screen for contacts, for your calendar, for gmail, for email, for RSS, and more. Not only can you configure the desktop the way you want, you can configure the behavior of your phone. Set up default actions for different contacts — even add an entirely different desktop, should you want. The possibilities are endless with the Android phone. With the iPhone, you’re pretty much limited to what Apple says.
    7: Market

    Yes, Apple has an app for that. But so does Android. And chances are, the Android app is free and works as well (or better) than the iPhone app. And, believe it or not, there are thousands of apps in the Android Market. Apple does not (at least yet) have a patent on an application for just about everything. Give it time though. And installing applications on your Android phone is actually easier than it is on the iPhone. For free applications, you don’t have to worry about entering a password every time you try to install anything. And you do not have to link to Apple’s iTunes store to purchase applications from the Android Market. For those apps that have a price, you enter your information on the Google Market one time and you’re done.
    8: Google integration

    This one is almost not fair, since Android was built with the intention of integrating with Google. But wow does it integrate well. Want to search Google? Simply click the search button, enter your search string, and you’re off and running. Did I mention Google Voice? Yes, the Android has an app for that.
    9: Open Source

    Why does being open make Android better than iPhone? For the same reason that being open helps Linux: a planet full of developers with the ability to aid Android’s developers. Anyone can get access to the source of Android to better the system. This is also a double-edged sword, in that it allows those will less-than-ideal intentions to discover any weakness of the phone. But that can be seen as an indirect plus because when weaknesses are found in the open source community, they are quickly fixed. I assume that this tradition will extend to the Android phone. iPhone open? You’re kidding right?
    10: Open to carriers

    This is yet another reason why Android is superior. If you want an iPhone (at least for the time being), you better be open to AT&T. If you don’t like AT&T and you still want an iPhone, you better be open to doing a little jail breaking or move to another country. If you want an Android phone, you can join any number of carriers and have your choice of any number of outstanding phones using Android. No lock down.
  7. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    That last post was pure bs.

    Chainblade and everyone else seem to be missing the point, I'm not saying the iPhone is better than android, I'm telling you why more people buy the iPhone over android (here's a hint: it has nothing to do with being a better phone).
  8. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    :D

    Adobe Calling Quits on Flash for iPhone

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/194668/adobe_calling_quits_on_flash_for_iphone.html

    just sharing some news i just read.
  9. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    This. All of you guys arguing otherwise are looking at it from your own perspective. We have a few hundred mobile devices that we support at work. The only people who have android are young and tech savvy dudes. The iphone users span the spectrum from young tech savvy dudes to people older than 60 who barely can use a computer. Most of them don't use the iphone for more than the typical phone features (call, text, email, pictures) and maybe do a bit of internet. People don't care about the real specs of the computer, they care about what they percieve and can do personally. You can get on and start jacking with it immediately - people hate having a learning curve, especially with new technology. Look at how slow the uptake and reaction was to office 2007 (ribbon) and vista. If they can get on and just start doing stuff, its going to sell a lot quicker than having to read a manual
    also the trend I have seen is that most people have a few apps that they may use regularly but generally use the iphone as just a phone after a few months, even the younger ones

    also, I use a blackberry, I hope you all die
  10. gB dAvId x

    gB dAvId x thats what she said

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    didn't have time to read your whole reply, but isn't operah on the iphone now????
  11. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    that's the thing that pisses me off. why do apple products have the perception of being easier to use or "just working"? I agree that might had been the case a couple years ago but not now. I think windows 7 is just as easy to use as OSX. I think android is just as easy to use as the iphone too. But you guys are right. Perception is everything. marketing is everything. hell, 300k+ people buying the first gen ipad proves that.

    i do see a market for apple products, I'm just surprised it's as big as it is.
  12. PeNZ

    PeNZ Tweak OG

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    Most of this stuff you listed blackberry has had for years
  13. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    ...and still does is it horribly.
  14. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    Just got emailed this little piece of news...

    Android software on an iphone...I guess the iphone can only handle android OS 1.5 and nothing newer because the iphone isnt up to spec...

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/android-ported-to-iphone/


    (dont shoot the messenger! lol im just sharing what was sent to me)
  15. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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    you are right...yet it does none of it that well and they haven't kept up with the times enough to compete with android and iphone. it still has a place in business though but as a personal device, i dont' see any reason to have one unless you just happen to love blackberry's.
  16. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    The 2G iphone seemed to handle 1.5 just fine and I'm sure the 3GS could run 2.1, seeing how it has a faster processor than a lot of android phones.

    Not bad for a 3 year old phone;)

    and yes I'll be trying this out once I get the appropriate files.
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    -=Lurker=- **BANNED**

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    I love when people get all zealous over the whole Android vs iPhone thing....

    Christ people, its just a phone...
  18. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    ...One phone to rule them all, One phone to find them,
    One phone to bring them all and in the darkness bind them!
  19. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    remember, once i have all three i'll combine my powers into a huge jizzball and impregnate everyone. you all better hope i dont acquire them.
  20. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Not all that is true, but a good point. Not everyone is tied to itunes. As well if people know how bad itunes can be, they will shy away.
  21. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    There are tons of alternatives for both syncing with iPods/iPhones and for copying music off of them.
  22. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    I hate itunes as well and it was defeinitly a factor for me not wanting the iphone initially. I ended up putting itunes on my netbook since I rarely use it but when I was looking for alternatives I couldn't find any except for ipods.
  23. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    You have to remember, the people that know about the alternatives, probably already know the faults of the iphone, or have reasons to get it.
  24. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    Most people don't know they can hook up a USB cable and use their phones as storage devices either so really it's up to the knowledge of the salesperson.
  25. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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