Discussion in 'Tech' started by Octane91, Jan 15, 2008.
Holy crap, I never realized how bad Apple had some of you by the balls.
Oh well, it's your money.
How, exactly? I've got one, and it doesn't seem very limited to me, apart from the obvious constraints on the screen and keyboard from being in such a small case. It doesn't have Bluetooth, but it does have 3 USB ports, Ethernet, wireless, a card reader, a removable battery, upgradeable memory (I've got 2GB in mine), a small and light AC adapter, SSD hard disk, a webcam, ... it's a very nice package and for the price I don't think it can be beaten.
I saw the Asus EEE the other day and loved the look. Very cool. How functional is it? Is it just as customizable as other Linux distros, and major limitations?
Some of us have different priorities when it comes to computers. As it is right now, I just want something that looks and runs beautifully. It's much the same as buying a car, sometimes it's worth the premium and limitations to gain certain advantages.
You can put pretty much any distro you want onto it.
I also never realized how much of the koolaid some of you have drank! When you break it down to a hardware perspective, the Macbook Air is a $1799 macbook that weighs 1lb less and is half as thick, but you lost all the features mentioned above in Ali and mines posts. Seriously, what is so innovative about this product? The only thing I see about it, is that it's Apple first ultra portable, that's all it has going for it, it's an apple. It doesn't even have a quad core. That would have been nice, first ultra-portable with a quad core, but no. Other companies have released thinner, lighter laptops in the past. Get this, you could put an SSD inside them and it would still be under $3000! Don't "normal" people care that they are getting retardated hardware inside a nice shinny case or just "nerds" care about stuff like that? 2GB is plenty of RAM, just like 640K must have been....and 8.3 naming convention is all anybody would ever need, right? right?
The default distro is OK, but nothing special. It just gives you a tabbed interface with a few sets of programs in each tab, one for web stuff, one for media stuff, and so on. You can open a console if you really want to, but I don't think it's particularly customisable, certainly not as much as a more normal install would be. I read that there are limits on what you can install and uninstall and things like that.
I just removed it after half an hour and installed XP, using nlite so it didn't take up much space on the 4GB SSD. The manual actually includes instructions for installing XP along with a full set of drivers on the DVD, which I wasn't expecting and was very convenient. Like Electric_Head said, you could install something like Ubuntu instead without much trouble.
I am drinking the Koolaid. There are currently 3 objects sitting on my desk that I'm passionate about and two are made by Apple! The 3rd is made by the Miller Brewing Company.
But I personally would never buy the Air. Give me the Macbook Pro over it any day. The demographic of people who would buy it spend a lot of time on airplanes and expensive cars. It's a great product, just not for everybody.
Holy shit, XP? That's so cool. Please tell me you've gamed on it.
I'm planning to try that tomorrow, I've got one of those USB powered portable HDs that I'll install a few games on and try them out (keeping the SSD for applications).
If you have a look here: Games tested on the Eee PC [EeeUser Eee PC Wiki] there's a surprisingly large number of games that have been found to work on it. You can also overclock it to some extent using setfsb to get some extra speed
I can see where Apple is going with this... just wait for the 2nd gen version. Everybody will be wanting one then.
YouTube - MacBook Air - A guided Tour dont know if anyone else has seen this but the system has a cople of nice featues i think
Guys, I think Apple has heard your complaints and revised the Macbook Air. It seems to be a lot more functional now and they've even upped the core count on the processor.
Meh, not really funny. The complaints are valid. Ultra portable doesn't have to mean featureless. Still a wailing piece of shit in my eyes.
And again, it's target market isn't you. It's not for someone who wants to do everything with their computer on the go.
You guys also have to consider the cost of the parts. It's a apple driven piece that Intel delivered. Imagine the costs making this processor specific for Apple.
First off, all you guys saying its not the thinnest, prove it. I haven't seen anything thinner than that, and they also claim it is the thinnest ever made.
The guy sounds like he is just bitching about apple for the sake of bitching about apple.
Its definitely something I'd like to have but won't (because its fucking expensive and I'm poor). The eeePC will have to do.
I can't imagine them selling a ton, but I think with the whole reality-distortion field that apple has the best chance of having a very successful tablet product.
It's impressive, my only complaint is you can keep it ultra thin and pack it with features.
Seems like they spent so much time trying to make the thing thinner than a piece of paper that they said 'screw it' to the stuff that's important. Even the port where the Audio/DVI/USB "pops" out looks cheap and easily broken.
The reaction at work has been pretty funny. All the women have drooled over the damn thing, and the guys all say "Too expensive, and it's missing X..."
I wouldn't mind something like this for work. I don't like the lack of USB ports but I assume you can still run Ethereal and other apps for it right? I've thought about buying a Mac just to get the experience but I don't have many clients who have a Mac (two to be exact)....and to be honest it's nice to say "i have no idea what you're talking about" when dealing with a Mac problem because it's usually a bizarre issue. Just an example:
SBS 2003 server, windows network, nothing else unique but out of the blue the only Mac user says he cannot connect to his shared folder. I can ping his IP addy, I can even see his public folder. I just can't see his shared folder. Now, granted, it DID work but I don't know when it stopped working and I sure as hell don't know what changed. He's smug and cocky too so it's nice to essentially tell him to F off.
YouTube - New MacBook Air Ad (Parody)
There is no such thing as a perfect laptop in the world we live in.
Making a ultra compact and thin laptop has its own constraints. No matter what laptop you buy out there, you won't be able to find a laptop that will fulfill everyone's expectations.
It all comes down to the company's "core competency" that fulfills individual needs of consumers.
as mentioned, the macbook would probably be good for a business oriented person where commuting and presentations are crucial. But for someone who needs high durability packed with features and power, a Lenovo would probably be a better bet.
What version of OSX? Tiger sucked at this, but I've found Leopard is much, much better. Tell him to buy a new Mac.
I think it's Tiger? I know that the contact that I deal with asked him if he'd gotten Leopard yet and he said not yet. We don't officially support Macs so I never ever touch one unless I'm turning it on.
Yeah, just tell him to upgrade to Leopard. I had some irritating problems connecting to my Windows server until I upgraded. The updated finder automatically lists Windows servers making file sharing a no-brainer.
Notice the icon they use for Windows servers too: a big nasty CRT monitor with a BSOD screen! Cracks me up...