Homegrown Terrorism: Man Crashes Plane Into IRS Building, Killing Two

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  1. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Isn't this how American Democracy has always worked? :) There, I quoted you! :D

    Actually, it's already been pointed out that the web has enabled people to read only what they already agree with, so that our arguments no longer even have a common information base anymore. Journalists seem to find this study important for some reason (cough-jobs-cough)

    Besides, thinking for myself is too hard!!!! Not to mention the trouble I get into, doing that... "LaFue I'm afraid I've been thinking." "A dangerous pastime!" "I know!"
  2. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    LOL, Tac telling people to be critical thinkers. That's rich.

    Ok, what is incorrect about that article? How is what this guy did not terrorism?

    And anyways, no one can agree with anyone else, just because they are on the internet?
  3. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    Rather, we disagree in a more profound manner, because of the internet, or, more specifically, because we all visit different parts of the internet for our information, looking through vastly different filters and worldviews... ;) Now, instead of disagreeing on what some event means, we disagree on what that event is, or even if there WAS an event!

    We are all Lone Gunmen. (Does anyone even remember the X-Files?)
  4. HEAVY-D

    HEAVY-D Eh?!

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    I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible to think for yourself with all the "noise" being generated from the internets, the major and minor news sources. With "billions and billions" of opinions, agendas and people wanting to be entertained it's hard to sort through all of the clutter. It's so much easier to turn all of this shit off and call it a day.
  5. ivanolo

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    He's not Muslim? :D

    IMO, whenever someone wreaks havoc and kills people to make a statement and/or send a message, it's terrorism. You don't have to belong to an organization or anything.
  6. Tacdriver

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    It's not terrorism. He was a single person striking out against the government........he wasn't trying to scare thousands or millions of people. He wasn't striking out against our culture. Think about it. Was the Unabomber a terrorist? Nope.....he just dissliked technology.
  7. HEAVY-D

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    So no one can agree on what terrorism is?

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  8. hans5849

    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    Hey, I feel that way. I'm offended.

    I was actually going to make a post along the lines of what 950 copy-pasted, but that person put it much more eloquently.

    One of my thoughts when we were invading Iraq "Isn't this shock and awe campaign just terrorism relabeled." When I was listening to the radio announcement about this and they said "the police are saying this is not a terrorist act." I was amazed that just because this person was an American Citizen that they were trying to label this something other than what it is.
  9. Goofus Maximus

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    This reasoning can be applied to the terrorists as well. They're just striking out against those foreign influences that have reaked havoc. Actually, I think the pilot WAS striking out against our culture. I seem to remember Catholics being a part of his rant... It could be argued that the unabomber was a terrorist, since he was trying to scare people into stopping research on new technology...

    It all starts to get down to Bill Clinton's wanting a definition of what is the word "is"... ;)
  10. Mr. Ali

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    You don't think all those government employees are scared and in fear of their life now that some scum person calling themselves American perform a barbaric suicide mission? I hope this event is the tipping point that destroys this retarded tea party movement.
  11. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    The difference is, you don't kill people over it.

    What does this guy have to do with the tea party movement again? He had no ties to the tea party movement. The media IS, however, playing connect the dots with this one, letting everyone think he is involved with the tea parties.
  12. ninefivezero

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    I for one don't think this has anything to do with the nonsense "Tea Party".

    I think the note makes it pretty clear he doesn't fit so neatly into those typical boxes, other than a sort of populist outrage. That populist outrage however, is an element of the "Tea Party".
  13. GRP

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    This is more important. Both the left and right need to forget the social issues for a bit and come together on the financials that they agree on. Time to sweep this shit out of office.

    It's absolutely terrorism and Fox News is (SURPRISE) a pile of shit.

    It's also an element of about a thousand different political philosophies. One shouldn't have been singled out.

    Come on man, if anything he's more vaguely leftist than anything... not even really that. Read the whole note. You have to be intellectually honest with things like this, and attaching him to any one movement is entirely dishonest.

    Dude. He flew a plane into a building. For reference:
    I really, really hope you're not serious.
  14. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Not to mention the web being "used" to steer opinion/thought with lies, deceit, misinfo, slants and omisions. This internet thing is an awefull tidy way to incorporate plausible deniability due to the anonomous nature of being able to "seed" falsehoods and outright lies. People won't take time to check shit out and there is a substantial dollar value to that voluntary ignorance.
    Hypothetical case in point:
    A strong and powerfull energy concern wants to discredit alternatives to petroleum fosile fuels as a motor fuel. The way a seed gets planted is to put up a bunch of whackos/scam type shit so that the whole undertaking is constued as a flim-flam. Even though there are viable alternatives to fossile fuels, the public remembers those introduced scams and discounts the real deals out there.
    I got it made.....I trust no one. i read a study by an independant analysis firm on the percentage of info on the web that was a scam in one form or another. the findings? 95% bullshit.

    As for the topic? (IMHO) Terrorism is done by a group with the intended product being mass hysteria, fear and a general feeling of not being safe in order to divide and conquere. If this is the case, there are a lot of entities that may fall into that category. One of which is the CIA and HSA not to mention the IRS. I fear what my government is capable of a helluva lot more than a rag-tag army in the middle east.