HD media player shootout!

Discussion in 'Tech' started by MSP, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Yeah, the Roku is awesome but limited. Doesn't do any local streaming as far as I know. The only devices I know that will play ISO files for sure are the WD TV, the Seagate Free Agent Theater+, and the Asus O Play.
  2. Miller

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    We use (2) ps3's and (1) xbox 360 for our media streaming. running ps3media server on my main box with 3tb of media. everything works great except i need more harddrive space. eventually i'm going to build a dedicated server with a few more 2tb drives. Everything wired on a gigabit network, I don't screw around with wireless. my vote is for a ps3, plays blueray too. i only bought the xbox because we already have 2 ps3's
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    Will a PS3 play DVD ISO files from a USB hard drive? More than I was intending on spending, but given it's feature set and support for 3D it would certainly be future proof.
  4. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Oh, a downside to the PS3, if a movie is attained in an unsavory way and it has a certain protection on it, it wont matter if its a cam or ts or whatever, there is a protection method that the PS3 will detect and block said movie. This is becoming more and more common and if the video has the protection, there is no way to play it back on the PS3. As far as I know or have seen from my research. So take that as a warning about using the PS3 to playback media from unsavory sources.
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  6. MSP

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    Well, within the next few months I'm going to have 600+ DVD ISOs, so not having to convert them is definitely a big check mark in the WD TV column. Sure they take up 4X more space, but storage is so fucking cheap. I made the mistake of ripping all of my CDs at 160kbps 10 years ago, and for what? Because I didn't want to spend 100 bucks on another hard drive? Not going cheap this time.
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    Not 100% sure if it will play an iso, i'm sure it will but all my movies are in avi or similar format. And yes, it will play from a usb drive. ill check it out for you.

    Umm no? I have 3tb of media and have never had a problem like that on anything.
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    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Eh, looks like it only effects CAM or TS type releases. I don't think anyone here even downloads that garbage.
  10. chapel

    chapel Jolly Bolly Fo-Folly Staff Member

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    Its something to take into account. The PS3 is a great bluray player, but if you aren't interested in bluray, then get one of the cheaper more feature-full media players that have been linked.
  11. MSP

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    PS3 is off the list for me! I've already got a Blu Ray player, so I really wasn't seriously considering it anyway. $99 for exactly what I want, and none of that DRM bullshit? Oh yeah, done deal.

    On a related note though, I had to RMA one of my terabyte drives. I spend days ripping DVDs to it and suddenly it starts failing the DST? Luckily I got everything off of it first.
  12. MaesterB

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    Wow...after reading about Cinavia, I think I changed my mind on the PS3. Or just delay it a little.

    After seeing a game like Mortal Kombat on the PS3, I wanted one. But as it is, I hardly play the Wii, or my computer, and when I go to Blu-ray, I really should have HDMI (even though my TV supports 1080i). Hmmmm...decisions, decisions.

    EDIT: You know what? For me, I don't get Blu-ray movies as it is, and if I do, I'll rent them through my Rogers Direct thing. But for now, my biggest thing is streaming ALL content (pictures, music, standard dvds) and I'm gonna go PS3. :) Just to say I have one. Plus...the place where I got some free gift cards through...the store for those gift cards doesn't even have the WD Live stuff...damn. LOL
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    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    From what I've read, thats all it effects too. I haven't run into any problems yet, but well see. I don't have any cam or ts files.
  15. MaesterB

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    So...borrowed my brothers OLDER PS3 (80GB) system to do some testing with. Quite happy. Over wireless network:
    -streams music great
    -pictures are so-so
    -streamed an ISO of Shutter Island (with 5.1 audio) half-decent

    Luckily, I got a freebie 100ft cat5e cable, so we'll see how well it handles streaming with that plugged in. Also, not streaming HD (through component) yet. Just connected with a standard video cable.
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    I was doing this exact same research just a few days ago, and can't believe I forgot to check here first!

    I ended up going with the WDTV Live Plus + a wireless adapter. I had narrowed my choices down between the O!Play Air and WDTV, as I intially plan on doing wireless, and if it starts choking, I'll have to buckle down and wire the house up (something I reallly don't want to have to do). I finally decided on the WDTV because of the better format support and better UI from what I was reading. Should be coming tomorrow, so I'll post up whenever I get around to setting it up and playing with it.
  17. Torx

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    for fucks sake, popbox is obviously going to be vaporware.. its supposed to have been out by now
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    Yeah Jamsan, I bought the same. Just got it set up this weekend and holy shit it's awesome. I'll post more details when I've got time, gotta run.
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    I'd like to hear your opinion on it, MSP. Although my tests on the PS3 are awesome, in terms of user friendliness for someone like my wife...not happening anytime soon. :)
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    OK, here's the mini-review. I'll post something with pictures shortly. This thing is the bomb! Plays every file format under the sun, including ISO files. Full DVD menu functionality, so additional content and such is preserved. Pandora is great, no commercials that I can tell. Maybe they kick in later? I dunno. Netflix functionality is better than my LG blu-ray player by a mile - I can actually browse everything, not just my Instant Queue. File upconversion to 1080p likewise is better than the LG. The way it handles USB mass storage devices is slick as shit, automatically inventorying what's on both discs and listing them seamlessly under the media categories (movies, music, photos). When browsing movies for example, it shows a video preview of each file that you highlight. Network setup is plug and play, dead simple. I opted to use the ethernet port connected to my D-Link DIR-615 bridged so that I wouldn't have to sacrifice a USB port for the Wi-Fi. Boot up time is a little long, about a minute with two USB drives attached, but once up is extremely fast. Highly recommended. :thumbsup:
  21. ivanolo

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    Glad to know it was a good buy! Check for firmware updates once in a while; WD may add compatibility with more formats and improve the GUI.
  22. MaesterB

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    Good to hear. In fact, there's a guy in the office here that has one of those, but doesn't like it for some odd reason. So, I'm going to get him to lend it to me for a few days, so I can test it out for myself. I might buy that instead of a PS3.
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    Yeah, give it a try. For me I already had two Blu-Ray players, and wasn't interested in the gaming, so this was a perfect fit.

    In the process of getting all of my disks set up. I swear, I ended up with 3TB of movie storage, and another 3TB of backup disks. Like everything else this project got a little out of hand... :paranoid:
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    That's why seagate or WD just announced their external 3tb for $250. :) They were thinking of you.
  25. Jamsan

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    Got the wireless adapter today. Everything is up and running and like MSP said, the thing is amazing. Setup was an absolute breeze, even using a wireless adapter. I plugged the adapter into the back USB port, booted up the device, went into network settings, chose the auto route, selected the SSID of my router, entered the key and voila - up and running on that front. Was instantly able to stream Netflix, YouTube, etc.

    I then switched my attention over to what I truly wanted to do - stream content from my PC (I have 4 2TB drives in RAID 10 in here, so I opted not to go the USB drive route). Reading some reviews on the device, I saw some posts about people having issues getting Windows 7 to share out drives properly. So I share out the drive as I normally do and go over to the device to configure the connectivity. I go into the network settings and configure the Network share auto login and when into the media section to attempt the connection. The device automatically picked up my PC as being an available share. After selecting it, it prompted for a login and password, which I entered, and the folders popped right up. I navigated around a bit, as I knew I had all types of media available to choose from. The device read MKVs, AVIs, MP3s, ISOs, and a few other types that I had available. I played an ISO and HD MKV. The mkv took a while to load up - not sure exactly as I had stepped away to get a bite and it was up when I came back. It was at least 15-20 seconds. Not the end of the world, but not quick by any means. I usually get snacks before watching something, so I can use that time to get something (in combination with boot up time - like MSP said - little slow!).

    Once playback started, it was absolutely flawless. No skipping that I've noticed thus far and no pixelation. Again, this is over wireless (both the device and my desktop - wireless G at that), so I was quite impressed. Even my PS3 would skip around a bit. I haven't watched for that long as of yet (only about 5 minutes), so perhaps I'll still be in for a let down when I play it for longer or if the wireless gets saturated, but so far I've very impressed with the device. I'll post more as I use the device more, and will accompany it with some pictures if I get unlazy.

    Next up will be to configure the device to work with my Harmony One. I logged into the software and it lists it as a supported device, so I don't think I'll have any issues getting it up and running. Worst case, I'll use the IR learning ability on the Harmony, as there's only a handful of buttons on the remote (tiny!).