Girl goes on a meltdown racial spree at school (getmeoffthisplanet.jpg)

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  1. Mr. Ali

    Mr. Ali Junior Member

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    It hasn't actually been proven yet that Trayvon attacked the guy or that Zimmerman was defending himself. Right now its just a he said she said. We need a trial so the facts can come out. You hear different shit in the media every damn hour, who knows what to believe.

    Do you agree Tacdriver?
  2. nidex

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    Without facts, a trial won't prove much use with the information they currently have. With the amount of controversy around this issue, I'm sure the police department is conducting a very thorough investigation, so hopefully we'll have some better ideas as time goes on.
  3. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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  4. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Seriously, charges should be filed, settlement or not.
  5. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    Yes. But have you ever driven through Florida? I remember driving US1 from West Palm Beach to Key West, through Miami and all its suburbs. There are SO MANY gated communities there, it's not like the rest of the country where they're limited to being for the super wealthy. Pretty much everything in the suburbs off of a major road is gated.
  6. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    For a reason I suppose?
  7. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Yep. And Tray-whatever was not a resident of said community, right? Nor a guest of a resident?
  8. Mr. Ali

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    His dad live there... and was visiting him...
  9. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    OK, well at least he wasn't trespassing.
  10. braaains

    braaains gubble gubble

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    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/trayvon-martin-my-son-1398360.html
  11. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I got robbed? I didn't have stuffed animals at 12 years old.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...nia-beatingbre8300hu-20120401,0,7296233.story

    But if this rent-a-cop were solely targetting this kid based primarily on race, he should have a problem and be called out to justify his actions. I see that. Any kid being there acting suspiciously should have been approached and not having a visible reason to be where he was should have been under obserbvation.
    intersting report: http://www.cjcj.org/files/Does_age.pdf
  12. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    Yes... been approached by an official. Whether that be the security guard of the community, or the town/city police. Not by Zimmerman.
    And I'm assuming the reason that so many subdivisions are gated in Florida is because Florida is a cesspool.
  13. HEAVY-D

    HEAVY-D Eh?!

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    Surprised this is still going on. Just found out the reason Trayvon was wearing his hoodie was because it was raining that night. That's interesting because that's what I wear when it's raining. The more I learn about this case the more I realize both Trayvon and Mr. Zimmerman thought they both were in the right and both of them may have assumed the worst.

    Wait a minute...wiskas and MSP you didn't know Trayvon was there visiting his father and step-mother? Now I understand where you are coming from and thus the comments you are making. Forgive me but I can't do this anymore I'm done with the racist bullshit on this forum.
  14. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    DING DING DING DING!

    If the person is acting suspiciously, then yes. (And even then, by a cop) But I'm not sure what a "visible reason to be" somewhere means. This isn't Nazi Germany. "Papieren, bitte!" What're people supposed to do, carry big signs saying why they're walking down a particular street?

    I was sorta bouncing back and forth on this one, but after hearing the cops told Zimmerman to back off, and seeing the vid of Zimmerman later that night where it appears he doesn't have a scratch on him, I'm really leaning towards homicide. Luckily, people aren't tried in the press or internet forums. (Regardless, I still think Spike Lee is a complete tool)
  15. 86mcss

    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    I had no idea all this was going on in this thread lol... I have not been following this case extremely close...

    ...but it has been proven zimmerman was not apart of any neighborhood security watch. He appointed himself his neighborhood watch captain with him being the only voter. People in his neighborhood have came forward and proved this.

    Also zimmerman was not suppose to be in possession of firearms. He has a domestic abuse charge under his belt and also an assault on a police officer.
  16. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Read what I wrote. I said nothing about Trayvon. I simply commented on gated communities and what I do know about them.
    Everyone want to join the trayvon revenge team, go for it. Myself, I don't really care two shits about a case I know not much more than gossip about.

    You want to start a new controvery and get some more mileage out of this? :wink:
    How come the hispanic aspect of this whole media frenzy is not focused upon as much as the black aspect?
    Zimmerman is brown, not white really.
  17. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    links?
    There's just too much about this media frenzy based on gossip. I want proven facts. Thus far all I've gotten is emotion. To tell the truth, I don't really care enough to dig real hard.

    And HD.....I'm not part of this "Trayvon Vengence Movement", I have no real opinion based on fact.
    I'm not buying into the gossip.

    The only opinions I have are more in the form of questions.
    I would want to know who decided to make this white against black and not hispanic against black.
    I would want to know why this case and not the hundreds of other cases that didn't even leave a doubt as to the the validity of a claim of excessive use of force.
    I think a big part of the whole thing is politically motivated and demeans the loss that other families have faced regardless of race.
    All so JJ and AS can have something to bitch about and get their names back in the public focus.
  18. MSP

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    Well damn! I guess I'm just going to go back to ignoring this case until the jury decides.
  19. nidex

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    I'm sayin'. They're finally starting to mention he's Hispanic, and even CNN labeled him as "white Hispanic". Give me a break, what would a "black Hispanic" be then, a Dominican? He's just "Hispanic". This isn't white vs. black, but they sure are trying to milk that for all it's worth. Gated community does not mean the residents are the judge, jury, and executioner. Said it before, but he should've waited for the cops, and he didn't. Judging by his background it sounds like he's a wannabe cop with anger problems. I'm not too familiar with the "Stand Your Ground" law, but considering Trayvon was unarmed, my opinion is that the use of a weapon is unjustified. Based on that alone, he should be charged.

    Jackson and Sharpton are useless. We never hear from them until something happens to a black person, bunch of self-appointed reverends with loud mouths.
  20. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    That's just it. With the emotional slants that inundate this whole thing, I can not form a decent opinion. When there's a jury verdict (provided it's not emotion based derived from slanted media coverage) then I'll make any judgement based on that alone. I'm not going to argue anything.
    The big problem I see, is when the viral nature of the internet becomes the judge, jury and executioner in any matter. Our legal system sux and convicts lots of innocent people, but not nearly as much as the flawed internet justice system. How many live will be ruined in the pursuit of the facts of this case for example.
    One thing I do agree upon is that excessive force should be the only issue concidered at this time. Was it or was it not. If so manslaughter should be the minimum charge this guy faces.
  21. nidex

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    Yeah, but thankfully everybody on the Internet is pretty lazy. Everybody has their opinion, but nobody is going to do anything about it... and anyone that would take matters into their own hands would do so without the Internet (hearing about it on the news, organizing rallies, etc). Minus Spike Lee. Our legal system is set up so that the intelligent ones and the ones with money can get away with their crimes, while the dumb and the poor don't. I've always had kind of a twisted set of morals where I believe if you're smart enough to get away with a crime you should get away with it (as long as it doesn't harm another person- talking about smaller stuff here), but everything revolves around money and that's what I disagree with. You can kill somebody and as long as you have the $1million for bail, you can be back out on the street the next day.
  22. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    point taken

    I often wonder what an extraterrestrial would think about our whole human schtick:

    universe-map2.jpg
  23. HEAVY-D

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    For the record Mr. Zimmerman is Jewish and Hispanic and everyone knows they are out to get us.
  24. mistawiskas

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    The only reason I bring up race is to say that it shouldn't even be a consideration....ever, (especially before the possible use of excessive force is determined).
  25. HEAVY-D

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    Unfortunately race does matter, that's why I have been saying Mr. Zimmerman and not punk ass pussy cracker zimmerman because that would only make things worse.

    The truth is we have two families which have been destroyed by this avoidable (IMHO) incident.