Dish Network or DirecTV?

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  1. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    I've had Dish for nearly four years. The VIP722 box has to be replaced now for the 3rd time in four years, this time for total DVR hdd failure. I have a bunch of stuff on external, luckily, but will lose some stuff, and I'll have to re-program all the timers. The more I think about it the more miffed I'm getting that they won't upgrade my hw to the Hopper or at least a 922 w/out another two yr commit, which I absolutely will not do.

    I use the local cableco for internet. It's decent for where I live. Their TV packages are relatively primitive now, but may improve, which is part of the reason I don't want to commit to Dish another two years.

    But maybe it's time to churn over to DirecTV? I know that would also involve a two year commitment but at least I could get the Genie (DVR) in four rooms and their uberduber package is probably less than what I pay Dish now for only two rooms and no Showtime/Stars.
  2. Commissar Smersh

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    Call them and tell them you're going to switch to Direct. It costs them little to give you the same features but they lose revenue if you switch. Don't balk at canceling unless they give you what you want: no contract and a matching package for price. Worse thing is that they will say they can't do it and you take your money to Direct. Hooray capitalism.
  3. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    That's all well and good unless DirecTV sucks, which is part of what I'm asking.
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    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    The channels are going to be any different. The technology is damn near the same. Customer service is about the same.
  5. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Direct TV over dish network any day! I've had both and DirectTV has a lot better equipment. It may cost a bit more but it's a better service. Dish is ghetto compared to DTV.
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    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    Aren't there a bunch of channels not available on dish? AMC I know for sure. They always advertise Walking Dead as "not available on Dish". I wouldn't get dish just for that channel. I love Walking Dead and Mad Men.
    I'd go with Direct TV.
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    I forgot AMC wasn't on Dish. They're streaming online though aren't they? At least they did for the premier.

    Related: Finished the last season of Mad Men last week and working thought season 2 of Walking Dead ATM. Loving both all over again.
  8. Octane91

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    The 922 is cool, but it has had constant problems since launch, they suffer firmware issues and they have problems with remote connection over long spans. On the 722 and 722k you can split and diplex a radio remote signal and tv2 output to increase remote effectiveness (however this also broadcasts your television service on Air 60 or 72). The 922 uses a different band and antenna output making this method impossible. When I worked for Dish, we rarely installed 922's and they constantly had problems. I had one myself, and it had to be replaced 3 times in a year. The Xip 813 and 110 (hopper/ joey) runs on much of the same hardware and firmware as the 922. Almost all of the 722 and 722K's that Dish's customers have is refurbished equipment notorious for failure. Even more so in the 622 and hated 612

    Dish Network makes their money off of the programming subscriptions and satellite leasing to other subscribers (DirecTV being one) and little money on their equipment. This gets them to have tighter constraints on their programming costs and has caused blackouts in the past with certain content providers (ESPN, VIACOM, etc). DirecTV has higher operating costs because their uplink center is in L.A. and they rent some satellites from Dish/Echostar. DirecTV makes their money on their equipment so this let's them have more leeway when it comes to programming content. If movies is what your into, Dish's buyout of Blockbuster gave them earlier movie rights than some other sources so that might be of consideration.

    I personally think that the whole mainstream telecom game is being phased out. With DVR's people are skipping ads making it less lucrative to show television. Soon more people are going to cut the umbilical to major providers and just use a HD OTA and internet streaming.
  9. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    I have the DirecTV ultimate package. Its pretty cheap for the amount of channels I have, 3 receivers and a DVR. I'm happy with DirecTV.
  10. JZL

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    Dish never got AMC back? I thought they eventually did. I'd forgotten I had to DL the most recent Mad Men and Breaking Bad seasons.

    Totally not into the whole zombie craze but did really like Zombieland. Maybe I should check out Walking Dead.
  11. mistawiskas

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    I just had a chat with the regional construction supervisor for charter cable and we're going to work out a solution for getting cable ran down my long driveway that isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg. I'd be happy to run a trench and conduit to the power pole out on the driveway. The package deals with charter would defray the cost of running a cable within a year at the current rate of the shit assed services I'm getting through century link. TV w/DVR, Phone, 30MbS internet for 80 bucks a month less than what I'm paying now.
    It pays to smooze the regional mucky-mucks. We had him out to get an estimate/schedule work on relocating a hub that's smack dab in the middle of a parking lot we're paving for an apartment complex I've been doing renovations at. I approached him about my displeasure with Century Link and it sounds like he may really be able to help me break that umbilical cord.
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    Not sure if it's the same outfit but the Charter Cable in my neck of the woods was a trainwreck. I had the exact same service for years which didn't include internet, HD, or DVR-- but they'd raise my rates to upgrade people elsewhere. I once had a great phonecall with a rep when they upped the rates $10/month and offered a choice of either free internet, HD, or DVR for six months. "Oh, I'm sorry, that's not available in your area yet, sir. Neither is that. That one isn't either." "So basically you're raising my rates for absolutely nothing?" [huge pause] "It looks that way sir."

    Charter got bought out by Cobridge who had cable modem within a month. I called up the local wireless ISP dudes, who I know, but could only provide 1.5MB, and they said, "We were wondering when you were gonna call and fire us."
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    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I had them for years but fired them due to fuct-up customer service, not the actual cable.
    Out where I'm living now, the best I can do for broadband is 1.5 through the phone company or hughsnet.
    Charter and possibly UScellular via mobile data are really the only options for now. I keep getting offers for faster internet through
    Century link but when I try to set it up, they always tell me that it's not available in my area yet.
  14. JZL

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    Crap, you're in Oregon. I had it in my head you were in Montana for some reason. Anyway, DISH at least got the replacement box to me quickly so I'm back up again.

    Still open to people's opinions though-- got no contract with them DISH-BISHES. (try saying that real fast 3x)
  15. JZL

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    To DISH's credit, they got me a replacement 722 box pretty quickly, which means now the whole thing will probably be put on back burner status-- esp. since I borked my cellphone trying to install a new screen. That was waaay harder than I thought it would be, but that could be a whole new thread. At least I didn't bork the replacement screen in the process.

    Not a hallmark Week-in-Tech for your humble narrator.
  16. fornik8her

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    I've had dish for about six months. It came with the hopper which is nice. No problems so far. We are happy with it. They do have AMC in the line-up.
  17. succubus

    succubus Comfortably Numb

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    Dish - DirecTV constantly raises their prices. I've had Dish for 3 - 4 yrs - better bang for your money.