Chrysler buyout being negotiated with GM? Call me nostradamus...

Discussion in 'Gearhead Garage' started by MSP, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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  2. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    so...
    debt + debt = Profit?

    I don't see how one mismanaged company buying another is going to solve any of their problems.
  3. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    i thought gm already owned chrysler
  4. integra00

    integra00 Junior Member

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    Starting a small fire in ur moms panties
    GM is close to announcing bankruptcy as it is ? wtf
  5. Jishory

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    werent they supposed to start putting allisons in cummins powered trucks?
    im shopping around for one of these
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  6. MSP

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    You'll see all sorts of mergers and buy outs in the coming months. The less-weak companies will get bargains on their dieing competitors. And Chrysler certainly had it coming.
  7. ThatHideousStrength

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    I don't get it. They're both crappy. GM loses a billion dollars a month and they want to buy out Chrysler? I hope the gov. disallows this. Both companies are way beyond their capabilities of handling so many different brands.
  8. Dustin

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    I don't get WHY but whatever keeps them in the marketplace. Even though I hate them and their shit vehicles, they're necessary.

    What will fat white women drive if there's no Sunfires around for generations to come?
  9. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Chrysler is really doing that bad?

    Of all the new cars I see on the road a majority seem to be Chrysler's. To me it looked like they were on the right track.
  10. Dustin

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    I agree, I thought Chrysler was doing great too; the amount of Chargers and 300s and RAMs I see on the road is staggering.

    I think the problem is that they're losing on every car because they sell them so dirt cheap. The Chrysler 300 starts at $26,000 which seems a bargain for a supposedly high class 'executive' car; a comparable Lexus or Acura would easily be $36,000+. Even a BASIC Accord is only $5000 less.

    But all the stuff they try to pack in there and all the image they try to build with it costs money; but in order to keep it in a price someone will buy it for they have to cut corners on quality but still end up taking a loss on it. I guess the money they make from after-purchase isn't covering it?

    Scary to see giants like that collapsing
  11. Jishory

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    and you get a LIFETIME drive train warranty
  12. Dustin

    Dustin Junior Member

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    Fixed
  13. bigwill51534

    bigwill51534 Saint, Church of Ryanism

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    LMAO, so true, so true....

    ~Will Curtier~
  14. Jackalope

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    at this point it's likely the vehicle will outlast the company by far :)


    Faux edit: although now that I think about it, Chryslers ARE pretty shitty....
  15. sims

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    did you take business math to!?!

    its a bad scene out there, both companies are doing very badly, ford aswell. Its not a stretch to say that we could actaully potentially see then end of American automotive manufacturing with things as they are. the big 3 stocks are worth what, 20% of what they where not more then a few years ago. thats a HUUUUUUUUUGE drop.

    that said I don't think that will actaully happen, the big three, weather I agree with keeping them in business or not employee alot of people and contribute a great deal to the economy in both the states and in Canada.

    More then anything I think this move is an attempt to shore up there position in the world, the bigger they are, the less the Gov. can afford to let them fail. its the AIG syndrome. They're trying to put themselves into a position where the Gov. has no choice but to keep them afloat as things gets inevitably worse for both of them.
  16. MSP

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    Ha! So funny. But yeah, Honda doesn't offer such a warranty. Because they didn't have such a notorious reliability record on their drive trains, that required the lifetime thing in order to lure back customers. Hyundai did the same thing. The formula goes as follows: Shitty Car + Lifetime Warranty = "Well, it's a piece of shit but look at the warranty!". And so you buy a shitty car against all rational thought. I'd rather pay a little more and get a quality vehicle from the get-go, save me the hassle at the dealer.
  17. nidex

    nidex Hood Rich

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    How can you NOT buy this car?!
  18. ThatHideousStrength

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    I really want the 300 or the Charger but alas I won't get them. I've seen too many issues with them. I guess there's a huge transmission problem with them.
  19. Chainblade

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    this surprises me. I don't see how debt + debt = profit either. I'm surprised Chrysler is doing so badly. Like others have said, i've seen tons of newer Chryslers and Dodge's the past couple of years. The nice and new body styles have really impressed a lot of people. Maybe it's just too much, too late? Like others have said, maybe they are just taking a big loss on each car.

    i'm not sure if this is going to be a good thing or not. less competition is not a good thing, that's for sure. it will be interesting to see what happens. Curious what will happen with Ford as well. Isn't Ford doing a little better than GM though?
  20. MSP

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    Nice styling, but at the end of the day the car still has to move! You can candy coat a turd but it doesn't make it an M&M. :)
  21. nidex

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    Damn, nobody got my sarcasm. Oh well.

    You don't say!
    I'll never forget the Caravan that came into work and the tranny was pissing fluid everywhere and it had 30k on it. Or the Jeep with the leaky differential at 19k. Can you say quality control?
  22. MSP

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    Oh, thank Jah! I was really starting to wonder about you Nidex. :)

    Yeah, my buddy had TWO Chrysler mini-vans that required trainys within the warranty period. By show of hands, who has ever seen a sub-100,000 mile Honda with a bad transmission? I'm sure it happens, but pretty rare.
  23. Dustin

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    The only common transmission issues I've seen with Hondas are the recent V6 autos. The motors just have too much power and the trans can't handle it
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    the v6 Honda is crap and the variable trany is also shit. correction the Honda is crap but build to last. ford, gm, and Chrysler never made a car worth while driving.

    the dek motor from Nissan is in the new Honda. Honda meninges to take the best engine for 11 years in a row and fuck it up with its brilliant economical engineering. the Honda now gets 6mpg more then the altima but drives like a freaking boat on wheels.

    the variable trany sucks balls. Honda sucks ballz, boo Honda. everyone buy Nissan and get the fuck out of these retarded cars no boats.
  25. Dustin

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    You are the dumbest person on the planet I think