ALRIGHT TWEAK3RS! IT'S PC BUILD TIME!

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  1. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh 2020 Staff Member

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    My 2010 iMac is giving me fits about Planetary Annihilation, so I'm thinking I'm going to replace it with a Mac Mini for my media streaming to my Apple TV & a gaming rig. I have been so far out of the loop on hardware and don't feel like reading through 37,945 articles on Tom's or Anand or whatever, so I turn to the T3d forumites!

    Wants:

    Not gigantic case. Micro-ATX or Shuttle style would be ideal.
    At least an i5 or equivalent.
    Not blow the bank price wise, I'll be putting it together over a few months so I'm not in a hurry.
    Upgradeability that is cheaper than Apple (lulz, so anything).

    What's the medium-high chips from AMD? What graphics card?

    USB 3 would probably be nice but I'm not going to be transferring anything crazy over USB as it'll be 99% Steam. I have an external DVD/CD drive, so I could probably even do without that in the case.
  2. tweakmonkey

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    ~$1200 you should be able to get...

    Antec P180 equivalent case
    latest i7 second-tier CPU
    Asus motherboard w/ integrated Intel video (it's pretty good unless you're building a real gaming PC, in which case get a PCI-E Nvidia)
    16 gigs ram
    SSD
    old school backup drive

    I wouldn't bother with AMD currently.
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    Really? Integrated Intel? :-/
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    I ran Crysis with mine! :)

    But put a real video card in there, even a $150 card would be fine for most games.
  5. JZL

    JZL Ministry of Whack

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    You can get a card with some real ooomph for $100-$150 these days, but like tweakmonkey says, integrated actually can do stuff now.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487026

    IMHO, if you want to cut some $$$, go from 16gb ram to 8, get a cheaper case, and do some i5 variant. If you absolutely have to, forego the SSD in lieu of one really good spinner (but don't have to unless you have to ;) )
  6. tweakmonkey

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    SSD is a must IMO

    Makes a bigger perf difference than i5 vs i7 for most things, you'll save tons of your life staring at a screen waiting for loading :)

    If you're not going to upgrade again for 5-years or something I say fork out a little extra $ for some good stuff. What's i5 vs i7 and 8 vs 16 cost nowadays?
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    512 CUDA Cores?!

    Barracudas!?

    And I do love my solid state on my Air. Figure I'll do a smallish system SSD and then a secondary for games.
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    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    That second one looks like a microwave. blah

    First one looks nice and Appley which I know you like. Can you get a good motherboard and quiet/ mostly passive cooling in a case this small? Just haven't built one before with high end stuff. Also power supply? Many years ago that wasn't possible and I always doubted Shuttle's ability to keep up.
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    Well, it's not Shuttle brand specifically and looks about twice the size. Plus the one side is entirely mesh, so maybe? IDK, I figure someone on here has built PCs recently. :-X
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    I mean the Mini-ITX small form factor in general - how are the motherboards and can you buy an ample power supply that won't overheat but still supply enough juice for what you'd run on it.
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    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    I went with the 4771 because at the time it was the same price as the 4770.
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    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    Saw this build on the buildapc subreddit. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qvNjJx

    Also, buy as much as you can from Microcenter since there's one in Denver. No one is ever as cheap as they are.
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    86mcss Devouring your Soul

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    same. What's the price difference i5 vs i7? I don't understand some of these builds have $350 video cards but you'd run an i5? wtf. Curious to see whole parts list now.
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    Supposedly for gaming the i7 doesn't provide enough of a difference in speed over the i5 and the extra heat generated isn't desirable. Of course, if this changes the 1150 mobos will still support Broadwell next year.
  23. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    I'm happy with just the extreme ultra-low-end Haswell Pentium G3220, which is a neutered and spayed Core i-3 part, so I imagine anything with 4 cores will do you just dandy. The only real difference between a Haswell i-5 and i-7 is hyperthreading, and honestly, you probably won't lose much without this feature unless you run some heavily multithreaded monster apps for some reason.

    The Z-9X motherboard should leave you comfortably future-proofed for the moment, though lately, it seems as if every new CPU comes out with a new socket to put it in....
  24. mistawiskas

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    I'd go the i-5 route myself. If I were to build a new box. What I have is sorta doing the job. This is mainly because there hasn't been squat for games that I want to play
    and I'm not encoding vids anymore.
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    i7 son. thank me next year.