abortion video and comments

Discussion in 'OT Graveyard' started by ward, Jan 20, 2005.

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  1. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    pro-choice, as far as abortion goes, but partial birth abortion is just fucked up.

    The reason why i am for abortion works out like this: the people against abortion believe that life starts from the moment of concpetion, almost ALWAYS due to religious reasons (ie its gods miracle, the soul is already there yada yada yada).

    so, for the government to tell me that mass of cells, which is still connected to me, is a person must dictate that the government is acknowledging a soul, which then states that teh gov. believes in god, and all that supernatural bullshit

    basically, its justa buncha cells w/ the potential to become a life once that heart starts beatin. till then its no different than clipping your fingernails as far as the government should be concerned.
  2. Boltsky

    Boltsky Banned

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    Are we trying to seperate christianity and the government again? Note the supreme court and the things contained within.
  3. Jackalope

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    not christianity, but all religion. i dont want the government imposing a soul on my cells. next thin ya know, it could be illegal for me to jerk it, because all those spermies could have had souls, and were life.
  4. oblivious_maximus

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    I am pro choice. do i like the idea of killing fetuses? NO I DO NOT. but I also believe that some people are just not cut out to be parents. and there are other situations like rape and abuse... everything else I write winds up contradicting other stuff in my head. so:

    nothing is absolute. for every situation where abortion is completely wrong, there's another situation where it isn't. so I can't arbitrarily say "abortions are wrong and shouldn't be performed" it's just not that simple.



    I am completely, utterly, totally,(insert more synonyms here) against late abortion. the concept of a baby -that could otherwise have a chance at survival- not being "life" because it's head is still inside the birth canal is just totally fucked up.
  5. nidex

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    Pro-life. You can't prevent a human being from coming onto this earth just because you fucked up. You should know the consequences of sex before you do it.

    It's not your choice, and that's it.
  6. Cartman

    Cartman Junior Member

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    pro-choice.... womens right.....

    unborn child < rights than mom
  7. Cartman

    Cartman Junior Member

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    god i'm glad soembody posted that so well written out...
    ty nidex i respect your opinion

    but ward, when somebody says this to u, u godda end the discussion right there cuz it's basically a stailmate if they already believe that
  8. PeNZ

    PeNZ Tweak OG

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    what if she got raped nidex, and got preggo that way?
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    Bitch shouldn't have put herself in that situation!
  10. PeNZ

    PeNZ Tweak OG

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    Lol boltsky ownz
  11. Cartman

    Cartman Junior Member

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    oh come on, give a decent responce to that question
  12. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    When we live in a utopia, sure. But until then I think the right to have an abortion is a very important one.

    If nothint else, it means less, poor, uneducated people out there leaching of of welfare and other social aid programs.
  13. Boltsky

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    I'm going to have to agree with 9 fitty on this.
  14. PeNZ

    PeNZ Tweak OG

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    im sick of people leaching welfare and wic, god damn.
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    Nothing. G-Riot

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    ahaha, that is great.
  16. GRP

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    I'm pro life personally, and it isn't because some 2000 year old book says so. I just don't like the idea.

    The gov't shouldn't be able to say what you can and can't do though, and I think people should be able to make their own decisions without some suit giving the permission.
  17. Boltsky

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    Yes, because people should be free to do whatever they want. Sorry if you don't detect the sarcasm, but I'm feeling the rupturing of the bullshit meter. The simple fact of the matter is regardless of what some people want the government will always dictate certain aspects of your life in regards to what you are and are not permitted to do.
  18. GRP

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    True. Some aspects. I don't think this is one of them.

    But I believe that people can make their own decisions concerning this matter, and the government shouldn't have anything to do with it.

    As I said before, I am pro life, but just because I think one way doesn't mean everyone should.
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    When I get a car I'd put a pro-choice bumper sticker on it like "I kill babies" or something of the sort, but I don't feel like getting my car attacked by a bunch of rabid protesters :[
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    Your argument can't hold water until you define when this lump of cells becomes a human being. Im dissapointed in many of you because no one has yet to examine the Lacy Peterson trial in which Scott Peterson recieved charges for killing an unborn fetus, which acknowledges that a fetus is a living being at some point in time in the womb. How religion go thrown into this, im not quite sure. Though most will agree that religious people are more likely to protect the rights of a child, they do not do this because of some "2000 year old book" but because most of them believe that the fetus is actually a living being soul or sans-soul. I highly doubt you will find somone who believes in any denomination of catholicism who will tell you they hate children but are pro-life simply because their pastor or 2000 year old tome tells them to. Besides, im sure the pastor's are always searching for more alter boys.

    The most non-sensical argument i see thrown about is that parents who cannont support their child should be able to abort. Im sure many of these people who throw this around would be willing to give their tax dollars to a physically or mentally handi-capped person, yet they won't even bother saving a perfectly normal(well in most cases) human being from certain death, and a death that is quite gruesome and surely painful if the fetus is able to feel pain. Not only does their argument not make sense, but it also refuses to directly address the problem of the rapid sexual proliferation in younger adults. This is like attacking the tobbacco bussiness with new emphysema medicines.
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    Excellant post; probably the best in this thread so far.
  22. nidex

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    There's always adoption. And fuck welfare.
  23. ThatHideousStrength

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    i put myself in the situation of the child thats going to be aborted and refuse to accept being murdered because I'm "unwanted"
  24. GRP

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    Yeah, adoption is the avenue I'd take, if I had to. Fuck welfare indeed.
  25. KilledByDeath

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    coming from a girls point of view: pro-choice. the reasons being: if a guy rapes you and now you are stuck with his kid... even it it's not rape - but he dumps you once he finds out your having a baby - it sucks to be the woman because you can't just "ditch" the child like the males. I will always be stuck with it if i don't want it (unless i put it up for adoption). My sister had a kid and the dad isn't around much and she has to take care of the thing all the time, it's not fair! Okay so enough about me rambling on about how being a girl sucks -