abortion video and comments

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  1. ward

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    ((IF YOU VOTE PLEASE LEAVE YOUR EXPLANATION))

    we watched the video of a late abortion taking place during senior religion two days ago...it was very graphic and intense....

    there is no way you could watch this video and not be severely affected..

    i was pro-choice before i saw this video now im leaning towards pro-life

    i recommend seeing it because there are very few people who actually know what goes on during a late abortion(2nd and 3rd trimesters)

    i think that abortions should only be allowed during the 1st month of pregnancy or at most 1st trimester....for example...during the first 3 months you could get an abortion for any reason...but after that it should be illegal...after seeing the video you can see how real a person the fetus is...

    basically i want to know what you guys think about this?

    i know everyones view would probably change if your girlfriend suddenly told you she was pregnant....but for now whats your view?




    and i had to eat lunch after the video
    (i dont recommend that)
  2. NoseMaster

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    I'm perfectly fine with sacrificing a single life(who wouldn't even be able to support himself) to benefit the lives of two others.

    And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.
  3. ward

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    that is false

    you can get an abortion as late as you want up until birth
  4. HoldenBurn1000

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    I dunno what the law its in America but over here (England) you can only get it aborted within the first 3 months
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    Horse shit you can. Not in the US. Where the fuck do you live?
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    i voted pro choice

    i feel that it should be the womans decison if she whats an abortion or not. But only if they get it done within a certan period of time like 3-4 days after the girl gets pregnent
  8. ward

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    i live in new york and thats not on that list

    nor is California or texas...and those are the 3 biggest states in the country....nor is washington d.c. (i know not a state but a huge city)
  9. Sparky

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    Think about it:

    You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

    Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

    You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

    Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

    And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.
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    I'm pretty sure "at least 30" is the majority, meaning that it's illegal in the majority of the US. Just because NY is the "best" state doesn't mean anything.
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    I agree totally, shes the mother and shes the one who has to look after the child, and if she cant/wont than that is just child abuse in a differnt form.
  12. ward

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    yes i understand that....most people who receive abortions are too young and dont have money or the ability to raise a child and i do think that the abortion in that case would be the best...but what i said is that late abortions should be banned
  13. Sparky

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    But an abortion is an abortion. If you were in that position, would you really care what stage the fetus is in?
  14. ward

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    i shouldn't care because you are right that an abortion is an abortion.....

    yet the child isnt viable until the 2nd and 3rth trimesters...and i know that right at conception the child is "alive" with 46 chromosones....but for now im only against late abortions

    and another point is...the youngest baby ever to be born premature and survive is 5 months....so that means that at 5 months for now, a person can be born and survive....

    thats why i think that in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters...its murder
  15. Sparky

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    Well, it isn't going to hurt the baby to kill it, so that shouldn't be a problem. Would you rather the baby lived, but was put up for adoption? That would fucking scar me for life not knowing who my parents were. If I found out my mom was a 13 year old chick, I'd feel like shit.
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    Nplz, you're like TWELVE.
  17. Sparky

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    Look, I'm getting sick of the age jokes here. I'm 14 and my 15th birthday is in less than 2 months so fuck off.
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    A good friend of mine was born from a teenage mother who put him up for adoption at birth, and he doesn't know who his real parents are. But does he mope around feeling sorry for himself all day? No, he learned that shit happens. Stop having a fucking identity crisis.
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    I'm not adopted or anything, but I just threw out that scenario anyway. I mean, c'mon, does a teenage mother really care about killing the baby? No, she probably just wants to get away from all the troubles of being a teenage mother.
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    Let's throw all emotional attachment out the window, because people obviously do not have feelings. You can't throw all of your problems away into a bio-hazardous trashcan and forget about it; someday it will come back to take it's toll on you, be it emotionally or some other way. To everyone, or anyone who advocates or supports post 1st/2nd trimester abortions because of the will of the mother, regardless of her being in danger or not, are sick fucks. If you are too fucking stupid/lazy to take care of your problems early when they develop, then you can't expect to always have this big fucking red "ABORT" button for all of your unexpected problems.
  21. James K

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    I was raised in a very pro-life family. My mother was the president of the local human life group for many years and I've seen many of these tapes and talked to several people that have had abortions.
    I really can't define myself as pro choice or pro life. To me it's very situational. I really think abortion should not be used as birth control except in certain cases. That story you posted about the 13 year old would be a situation that I disagree with. I am for it if the baby is going to have serious medical or mental conditions, sometimes it can be worse to let the child live.
    Abortion can also sometimes lead to some pretty serious mental (and sometimes physical) anguish.
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  23. James K

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    Excellent post.
  24. ward

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    how do you have any idea if it hurts the baby....its a living thing for 9 months in its on environment....it can suck its thumb, take in food, move around, kick....why cant it feel pain?

    have you ever seen a 2nd/3rd trimester abortion???? obviously not...the first hting they do is rip off each limb, and then break its back in half and pull it out in 2 pieces....
  25. Sparky

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    Uh, I would have to see the video in order for me to change my mind. Sounds grusome.