Did Romney just hand over the election to Obama

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by integra00, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    No it is more based on the what was that Bush era thing ahhh yes No child left behind.
  2. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    You are wrong on all accounts.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...q4GIAQ&usg=AFQjCNEpBK3cpK6FyM79IWpz2Ymy9qsUyQ

    http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
  3. Miller

    Miller Tweak Guru

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    Yea joe biden doesn't donate to charity because he doesn't have any money.....

    Mitt Romney - Average Net Worth: $169,363,061*
    Joe Biden - Average Net Worth: $-534,990*

    http://www.davemanuel.com/pols/joe-biden/
    http://www.davemanuel.com/pols/mitt-romney/
  4. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    Did I say Obama was "Against" gay marriage? What I stated is accurate and you proved it in the 1st 10 seconds of the video. As far as the taxes go, is there any way of telling when those were posted to the site? I know he has yet to release his college transcripts (all candidates do) and was pretty certain during his campaign that he didn't release his 1040's. Let me know if you can find that out.
  5. integra00

    integra00 Junior Member

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    I think its funny how all you guys in the middle class (unless there are some guys here making million on interest/stocks) are defending a person for taking advantage of the system. Wake up you're the reason he's making millions without working. Just as your the reason there are millions of people at home getting fatter on a welfare check.
  6. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    So you weren't talking about Obama but the video of Obama speaking proved you are right? Yeah I guess it does prove you are right if you only watched the first 10 seconds of the video. However, to understand Obamas stance you would have had to watch the whole video. I know you think things are black and white and it's not possible to take a position in the middle but it is an option and it's exactly what Obamas stance is.

    I also like how you make an assumption in one post and I show you you were wrong and then in your next post you move the goal post.

    As you mentioned already, you have no issue with how Romney pays his taxes but your extinct tells you Obamas school transcripts are important. Really? Please explain that one. The only people I've seen asking about transcripts are birthers.


    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/03/obama-releases.html

    Notice the date of the article.
  7. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    LOL, I am an racist, elitist, fucking retard, anybody want to add anything else on to the end? The retard is in the office awaiting for you all to tell me how much help I need.

    If you can't beat them join them?

    You really believe that the VP's Net Worth is that? Really? Really? A politicians net worth in the Negative? Is that your final answer?
  8. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    What's that saying? If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and thinks like a duck...
  9. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    I think that it's funny how you think it's funny that we are defending a person for taking advantage of the system.

    Ok, ok, really so what is your solution? Haven't heard of one yet....I'm waiting.
  10. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    Haven't been able to watch this whole thing (slow internet) but should be an interesting video:

  11. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    I do like ducks.

    Can Obama get rid of 16,000,000,000 worth of debt? Can Obama do that? Will Obama do that?

    Can Romney do that? I think he has a lot better odds than Obama.
  12. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    Talking to you is like arguing with a box of moldy peas and carrots, a complete waste of time.
  13. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    You already replied to me with some No Child Left Behind gibberish at the top of the thread.

    Also, again, STOP DOUBLE OR TRIPLE POSTING.

    At least the peas and carrots had substance at one point in time.
    Greatbam says thanks for this.
  14. Greatbam

    Greatbam Junior Member

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    OK, and you were saying that I was some kind of elitist or something. I have happy to be 31337.

    You were asking why the rich are smart and the poor are dumb and I was just saying because of "No Child Left Behind".
  15. integra00

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    My solution would be very simple. I'd suggest that you got your ass kicked WAY more than you did in high school. Then maybe you wouldn't be such a troll on the internet now.
  16. Tacdriver

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    Now stop putting words in my post. I'll say it again, Obama said he believed in traditional marriage. I never said he was against gay marriage. In a politically motivated portion of the LGBT community, if you make that statement......their old ears turn off and you are instantly labeled "A religious fanatic" or "A gay basher." I could be wrong but, I bet he wouldn't make that comment as lightly now. That is my point. The referral to the 1st 10 seconds of the video doesn't mean I didn't watch all of it. Would you just calm the fuck down and just read past the spit on your screen before replying. This has been a problem with you in the past.

    I'm not a "Birther." Don't start slyly labeling me because you don't like the question. I didn't think it was ridiculous to ask Obama to produce the same material during his campaign that other candidates produced. i.e. his transcripts. Is that a bad thing? Does it make me racist? Also, thank you for posting that 2nd link about the year Obama released his 1040's. I didn't see that page.
  17. namelessentity

    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    Your answer makes no sense, that's why you got questioned for it. It's like being asked "are you hungry?" and replying "blue". Maybe you're having a stroke on the internet, or maybe English isn't your first language, but your replies don't make any fucking sense, and you seem to miss the point of everything directed at you.
  18. ShabazKillaX

    ShabazKillaX I'm an F18 bro

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    You can have differing opinions on what an appropriate tax rate for the wealthy should be, but I don't see how you can hold anything against Romney for paying what he did. As long as he didn't break any laws I have zero problem with it. You pay what is required - no more, no less.
  19. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    I was going to flip the card and bring up Obama's flip-floppyness too, especially on the 2nd ammendment shit after the Colorado thing. Both candidates are wishy-washy as hell IMHO.
    Most of the campaign rhetoric thus far has been about as believable as internet email scams from over seas. Is there really anyone out there believing any of that shit? if so, send me thier addy and I'll make sure my contact from Bumfuctegypt hooks them up with the estate a long lost relative left to them.

    Ditto!
    The legality of actions is the deciding factor unless your a dem hell bent on lambasting an oponent.
  20. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    There's nothing stopping us from starting our own shell corporations. It's apparently quite easy, and the number-one Country for ease of setting up tax-dodge shell corps is... the US of A!
  21. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    I must have missed the point then in your original post talking about Obamas stance on gay marriage. I still don't get it but I'll blame myself for that.

    Asking for transcripts doesn't make sense to me so can you explain what info you hope to gain by seeing his transcripts?

    The only reason I'd want to see romneys tax returns is so I can see what loopwholes he is using which will then help me to for opinions about him when he says he will cut government spending and lower taxes. Doesn't he want to lower taxes that will predominantly affects him or will they affect me too?

    It's kind of like letting cellphone carriers write their own legislation, would you be ok with that?
  22. integra00

    integra00 Junior Member

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    How do you feel about a person in the ghetto and their horde of children collecting that legal welfare ? I guess my anger at Romney is that he really exemplifies whats wrong with our tax system imo.
  23. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    There is no fixing the system, maintanence has been defered for way too long. I liken it to a house that needs to be totally torn down before it falls down in order to repair it.
  24. Commissar Smersh

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    From Dr Daniel Hamermesh, professor of Labour Economics at UT Austin:

    Dividends in the U.S. are taxed at only 15 percent (much lower than wages/salaries). The argument is that since corporate profits, from which dividends are paid, are already taxed, taxing dividends is double taxation. But what about capital gains—why are they taxed at 15 percent too? The standard argument is that we should be taxing real capital gains, not nominal gains. Okay, but it would be easy to include the Consumer Price Index for each of many years in TurboTax or TaxCut, base taxes on real gains and tax the real gain at the same rate as wages. The administrative cost of calculating real gains has disappeared. Another argument for a lower tax on capital gains might be that investment/risk-taking is more responsive to net returns than is labor supply, justifying a lower tax rate as optimal taxation. Perhaps, but at best the evidence is scarce. My guess is that the real justification is the ability of wealthy people, who are the main beneficiaries of this tax giveaway, to get Congress to enhance their net incomes. (HT: PLM).

    http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/08/15/taxing-capital-gains/
  25. Tacdriver

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    I'm guilty of getting too excited and passionate about my point of view so let's start from a clean slate. Now on to the transcripts. I really don't care about the the grades themselves. I'm concerned more with the fact that he refuses to make them public. Every other candidate has done this so why won't he? The Birthers made a valid point at first but once he produced a BC, that shut down that argument. Does that make sense? Remember all the comments about Bush being a "C" student in college? That's because the public had access to his records. I see your point on the cell phone carriers writing their own legislation but, via lobbyists it seems like they actually do. Kind of like the cable companies. Ever wonder why you can't get legislation passed (or regulations) that allows you to pick and choose what channels you want instead of packages? The technology is there. Lobbyists.